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True of false?

 
 
daverod
 
Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2018 10:00 am
Matthew 7:18 "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit."


If Christ (J)esus said this, would this be 'True' or would this be 'false'?


And so if a good tree cannot bring forth 'evil' fruit, can the idea of 'Holy' angels rebelling be 'True' or would the idea be 'false'?


Could the 'fruit' which caused Adam and Eve to 'die' in the same 'day' have turned into a fruit of the 'Tree of Life'?

Or could a fruit upon the 'Tree of Life' turn into a tree which bears fruit which causes 'ill'?


Can a banana tree bear non bananas? Or can an mango tree bear avocados?

So the statement: 'A mango tree can bear avocados'. Is that a 'true' or 'false' statement?

'Holy angels can bear unHoliness'. Is this a 'true' or 'false' statement?


So free will. Are mango trees 'robots' because they cannot bear avocados? Are Holy angels 'robots' because they cannot bear unHoliness?
Are 'mankind' 'robots' because they are mankind?


So, mango trees cannot bear avocados; Holy angels cannot bear unHoliness, sin cannot bear Holiness. And that is why God sent forth His Only Begotten Son. So that mankind can be given the opportunity to be able to do something 'contrary' to the 'tree' of this world.
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daverod
 
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Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2018 10:15 am
@daverod,
But does that mean that this 'world' is a corrupt tree? No.. It does not. The earth and life received the 'corruption' from the 'corruption' that was emerging out from within the Garden of Eden. The whole Earth became 'infected' by the same form and derivative forms of that 'corruption' that occurred within The Garden. But this does not mean that the 'World' is a Corrupt tree since when The LORD God (J)esus Christ 'made/created' it, God said, 'It is 'Good''.

So the corruption is occurring on the street level more than on the inner levels of The Earth and The World. The corruptions are vanities and superficial. Here today, gone tomorrow.

When the Earth and the Heaven(s) will be 'made anew', this does not mean that it first needs to be 'destroyed'. It just means that The Earth and Heavens will be made 'new'. The Earth and the Heavens are not corrupt trees. They don't need to be 're-created'.
daverod
 
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Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2018 10:25 am
@daverod,
So from where does 'evil' come from? If there is no fallen 'holy' angel or fallen 'holy' angels, from where does the 'evil' come from?


"For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man." - Matthew 15:19-20

"And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man." - Mark 7:20-23



1 Chronicles 21:1 "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."



And stood up:
5975. amad
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
abide behind, appoint, arise, cease, confirm, continue, dwell, be employed,


Satan:
7854. satan
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
adversary, Satan, withstand


against:
5921. al
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
above, according to, after, as against, among, and, as, at,


Israel:
3478. Yisrael
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
Israel


1 Chronicles 21:1-7

"And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel. 2And David said to Joab and to the rulers of the people, Go, number Israel from Beersheba even to Dan; and bring the number of them to me, that I may know it. 3And Joab answered, The LORD make his people an hundred times so many more as they be: but, my lord the king, are they not all my lord's servants? why then doth my lord require this thing? why will he be a cause of trespass to Israel? 4Nevertheless the king's word prevailed against Joab. Wherefore Joab departed, and went throughout all Israel, and came to Jerusalem. 5And Joab gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all they of Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah was four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword. 6But Levi and Benjamin counted he not among them: for the king's word was abominable to Joab.
7And God was displeased with this thing; therefore he smote Israel."

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Thomas33
 
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Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2018 10:40 am
Over the past year or so, I've become more and more preoccupied with the logic of replication versus contrast; if truth is real, truth cannot be the same as the safety of truth, for example

In this context, I would have to disagree with the Bible scripture
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2018 03:39 pm
@Thomas33,
I take it that youre just learning ENglish.??
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livinglava
 
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Reply Thu 15 Nov, 2018 05:30 pm
The quoted verse refers to false prophets.
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15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them.
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