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enough big data

 
 
SMickey
 
Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2018 09:44 am
While trying to predict when we will be able to ride in self-driving cars daily,
someone who was very skeptical said,

It will take a long time to have enough big data even 30 years from now.

The sentence seems weird, doesn't it?

I know native speakers don't say 'enough big', 'enough tall'
but only 'big enough', 'tall enough'.

What if a noun is attached at the end of it?

I would've come to the conclusion that 'enough big data' is not correct
if I hadn't run into this.

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When we use ENOUGH with an adjective or a noun two sentence positions are possible,
but the meaning will change.

We don't have enough big sweaters for tomorrow's field trip.
-> We have some big sweaters, but we need more.

We don't have big enough sweaters for tomorrow's field trip.
-> The sweaters we have are too small, so we need bigger sweaters.

https://www.myenglishteacher.eu/ask/question/how-to-use-enough/

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Likewise, both 'big enough data' and 'enough big data' can be grammatically correct,
only with different meanings?

Or, just like 'enough big' is incorrect, 'enough big data' still doesn't make sense?

I'd appreciate your comments.
Thank you in advance.
 
Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2018 10:00 am
@SMickey,
Never heard the expression "big data" before. I'm not in a statistical or technical field, but I have read a fair amount of scientific papers, and have not seen that expression in any of them.

However, a related expression, one which predates computers and databases, is "the big picture". That means you have had enough time and input to have an overall view of how something works or where a project or even an entire economy is going.

It is fairly common to run across a sentence like, "We finally have enough data to see the big picture".
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2018 10:14 am
@SMickey,
Big data is a new, hot field in statistics where huge amounts of information are analyzed to draw conclusions. Consider a big data as a single noun in this sentence.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2018 11:07 am
@SMickey,
big data is a noun

Quote:
big da┬Ěta

noun COMPUTING

extremely large data sets that may be analyzed computationally to reveal patterns, trends, and associations, especially relating to human behavior and interactions.

"much IT investment is going towards managing and maintaining big data"



it is a noun the way Big Ed is this guy's name

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Big_Ed.jpg
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2018 11:09 am
@SMickey,
SMickey wrote:
It will take a long time to have enough big data even 30 years from now.

The sentence seems weird, doesn't it?


yes, it does seem weird but for me the problem is


It will take a long time ... even 30 years from now.



Hard to sort out what the person is trying to say.
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2018 11:21 am
@engineer,
This is an IBM commercial for "business analytics", but it is essentially big data.

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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2018 11:31 am
@SMickey,
Big pharma is similarly used as a noun. Two words, one noun. It's verging on the Germanic Wink

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SMickey
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2018 06:36 pm
@Blickers,
Got it. Luckily, the word 'big picture' is a Koreanized word,
so it's used as it is quite commonly among Koreans.
Thank you for your explanation.
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SMickey
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2018 06:43 pm
@ehBeth,
So I asked him, 'What did you mean by that?'
and here is what he intended to say.

-It will take a long time until we have as much data as we need,
and the length of time required for that might be about 30 years or even longer.
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SMickey
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2018 06:49 pm
@ehBeth,
Let me get this straight.

As 'big data' is a noun, it's absolutely fine to say 'enough big data'
just like 'enough water'. Did I get it right?
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