0
   

How did I get here?

 
 
Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2018 04:39 pm
I'm in my mid-30s and I'm not happy. I can't remember any long periods of time when I have been happy. A year back I left a well paying job for further studies and now after graduation, I'm not getting any calls for job opportunities. The few that I get, I feel my not being white is an extreme disadvantage, specially in the industry I work (now don't tell me how it is equally bad for white people, or how immigrants are taking away their jobs). In my industry, white people with just a Bachelors can go on to head their departments, but we need PhDs to be even considered.

I'm not angry with Whites. Or anyone for that matter. I feel I'm slowly achieving that inner peace and accepting life as it is. I guess everyone is just looking out for themselves, and for people who look like themselves or are culturally compatible. But a little more background on where I'm coming from -

7-8 months before I decided to leave my job , my girlfriend from 3 years was cheating on me with a white guy. She in fact, even told once over a casual chat on how white men are more respectful of women. I didn't think much of it then and I had no reason to feel insecure. It was a few months later I found videos and pictures of her with that guy on a porn site. Apparently the "respectful" white guy left the country and was done with her. His face isn't on any picture or videos. By the time I saw those videos, there were more than 300k views and had been shared on multiple websites. I never spoke to her after that. I left the country to start a new life.

I did well in school, but I'd require visa sponsorship for a job. I won't be able to afford too much time without a job. And I'm starting to question the point of it all. I'm too old to turn it around completely and find success in the real world (don't give me examples of Colonel Sanders or other people who have been there. The world and the job market is different now) . Academia was good because there are not many external factors such as my skin color or my native language or my cultural fit in a new country. I have been contemplating on the quickest and painless way to end this humiliation. I'm only concerned about my aging parents. They may not be able to take this shock. My siblings would be fine, but they don't stay with my parents either to be able to comfort them. I have no desire or energy left for myself and I feel for the first time I can see things clearly.

And it's not about some job paying 200 grand a year. I had better expectations of myself and I had started out very well when I was young. I don't know how did I **** it up so badly. Any job I might take up might mean I'd be reporting to someone way younger. Some people do it to feed their families or for some other greater purpose. I don;t see any higher purpose right now. Even in my last job, I felt useless looking at stuff that doesn't matter a lot and nobody cares. Most of the work can be automated and they will eventually be. Why make it miserable for yourself later if you can get out now. The longer one goes on , the more strings that get attached. Like I said, the only reason I'm still here is because I'm concerned about how my parents will take it.

I don't know if I make sense and what exactly I want when I start this discussion. I may not even have the courage to end my own life, but I'm thinking of setting myself a deadline. Keeping up hopes shouldn't extend beyond the deadline. But how does one actually do it? I don;t even own a gun, though I have heard that's the quickest way.

 
jespah
 
  3  
Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2018 06:20 pm
@sisyfuss,
I'll address the rest of it in a moment, but right now I am far more concerned about your first and last paragraphs.

You say you haven't really been happy and then in the final paragraph you throw out the suggestion of ending it all. I urge you to get help. Life does not have to feel this way. Seriously. Life is imperfect and you've got every right to feel angry and/or down when bad things happen. It's when it tips into suicidal thoughts and a feeling that you've never really been content, that's when you should be getting professional help.

There is no shame in getting help. Just like there's no shame in getting someone to set a broken bone. It's a chemical imbalance. It can be managed.

And you're right that your parents would be devastated. And your siblings might be affected more than you think. Please at least talk to a professional a few times. Try that and see what happens, okay?

Now for the rest of your post.

I just got my Master's 2 years ago. That was 30 years after my last degree (a JD). It's never too late to change your career. So yeah, yeah, I know you didn't want to hear it, but I am living proof of change and I am old enough to be your mother.

I also work for someone who's a good 15 years younger than me. So? He's a good boss and I like him. I don't give a damn what his birth certificate says. There's no shame or weirdness surrounding working for someone younger than you. If it bothers you, then that is your hangup, sorry.

It can be hard to make your own opportunities. I temped and freelanced. Because yeah, it puts food on the table and lines on your resume.

Holding out for the perfect gig is not doing you any favors.
sisyfuss
 
  1  
Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2018 11:11 pm
@jespah,
@jespah
You're probably a nice person. Don't get me wrong, but the whole point of my post was about why is it necessary to be upbeat all your life or to fake it for others? I have been trying to fight perceptions and other things that never really mattered. It's not the will that has vanished. I have survived the Financial crisis and so many other obstacles. It's just that it is becoming clear that it's not worth it. In the end what matters is whether people at the top (we all know who they are, even though they can't stop complaining in the recent years when they're starting to lose ground) LIKE you. If you play their game, don't offend their sensibilities, etc, you're set . What you don't realize is that you've been gamed. It'd be politically incorrect to call them out on their actual intellect. To be honest, some of those good ones are actually in academia. The rejects come to the industry and are in the best case smooth-talkers or crooks in the worst case.

You say that your younger boss is all nice and stuff. Try rubbing him the wrong way and let's see how nice he really is. And my problem wasn't exactly about the age. It's about being worthy. I can't respect someone if they aren't as good on the technical aspects of our industry , but only there because a similar skin-colored guy LIKED him.

You mentioned you're old enough to be my mother. It's often the women who are nicer as bosses and as colleagues. I wish there were more of you. It's hypocritical that women leaders are rare in the West compared to 3rd world, contrary to popular belief.

May be you'll start hating me when you read this. But I'm most honest when I'm 3 whiskies down Smile Doesn't matter which side you belong to, but I honestly want you to get whatever you want. Cheers!
jespah
 
  2  
Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2018 06:45 am
@sisyfuss,
Actually, I have already had conflict with my boss. Know what happened? We resolved it.

I have had exceptionally horrible bosses. My worst boss was female. I used to be a road warrior, away (no lie) 200 - 250 days/year. It sucked. So I worked with Excel and created a template for auditing, which is what I did. It saved me a good day and a half to two days per long audit, and a good half to one day for short audits. Sometimes I knew the outcome of the audit, more or less, before I even got to the place I was auditing. A coworker loved the template and told our boss, gave it glowing reviews about how much time and money it saved. The boss said to him, "Oh, anyone can learn Excel."

Yeah. She was horrible. I survived.

I understand what you mean about playing a game at work but it's a lot easier when you at least enjoy what you do. Work well and playing that game won't matter anywhere near as much. My husband is a prime example of that. He is better, faster, and more organized than pretty much anyone at his level in the company. Sure, he's a pleasant guy, but when layoffs come, he doesn't get cut and it's got nothing to do with ass kissing. It has to do with the fact that he's made himself so valuable that he'll go down with the ship if the company ever goes belly up.

He's also so valuable that he hasn't been on a job interview in over 28 years. Instead, he's the kind of person who gets hired because someone says, "Hey, I know him! He's great!" And he's suddenly hired. He's got an incredible reputation in his profession (electrical engineering).

BTW, I also know some of my bosses got where they did not because of merit but because of ass kissing. Shrug. I don't want their jobs.

PS It takes a lot more to offend me. We're good.
0 Replies
 
Linkat
 
  1  
Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2018 03:46 pm
@jespah,
I can't add much more than what jespah said - she pretty much covered it all. Take her advice all the way around.

And I am sorry you were dealt some bad luck and some racism. You don't say what field of work you are in. I know my field there are walks of life at all levels. Is it something regional or in your industry that seems the cause? It seems more companies are trying to be wary of this sort of thing (not that it doesn't go on) - but it seems less and less.
0 Replies
 
 

 
  1. Forums
  2. » How did I get here?
Copyright © 2025 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.04 seconds on 07/20/2025 at 01:25:25