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Assistance with english accent assessement

 
 
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2018 03:22 pm
I had a hard time understanding some of the words.

To me, your accent sounds Italian, definitely not French.
Y7
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2018 03:23 pm
@izzythepush,
I see. I will try my best to improve somehow as I may not come to the UK anytime soon.

In fact, my biggest concern was to reduce interference with French because I speak french fluently. I wanted to switch between the two languages without
any interference felt by my audiences.

I just liked the BBC english accent to say, I just find it neutral enough and quite nice to my liking.

In the near future, I might have to do a lot of public speaking, and I would
want my audience to enjoy the speech and not be distracted by the accent.

Moreover, I also teach and would like to reduce my foreign accent when I speak english.
Y7
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2018 03:28 pm
@InfraBlue,
Oh! Pretty astonishing! Where is the italian flavour coming from?
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2018 03:37 pm
@Y7,
For one, sometimes your r's escape you, they sound flapped rather than guttural.
Y7
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2018 03:42 pm
@InfraBlue,
Do you mean that the pronunciation of the r's should have been rhotic?
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2018 04:05 pm
@Y7,
On hearing your recording again, your r's are English sounding, described linguistically as "postalveolar approximants." Maybe it's some of the other consonants. I really can't put my finger on it.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 01:50 am
@Y7,
I don't think anyone will be distracted by your accent. There's nothing wrong with it. Today people hear a wide range of accents all the time.
Y7
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 02:39 am
@izzythepush,
I see,
Thank you for your comments
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 03:08 am
@Y7,
When Denzel Washington prepared for his role in For Queen and Country, he spent a lot of time in Tottenham so he could sound like a local. That's the only way to do it, if that's what you want.

If however, you feel your accent is not suitable for public speaking, that's not true. Your accent is perfectly acceptable for public speaking, it doesn't need changing, but if you want to change it that's something else entirely.
Y7
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 03:49 am
@izzythepush,
I understand,

I think I will have less pressure on my shoulders then,
But, actually to be honest I worked on it a bit to become like the way it is
currently,

the th sounds, silent letters etc...

I feel like I want to change it a bit more,
I understand how important it will be to immerse to the british culture
should I get that flavour in terms of accent,

(At the beginning, I had quite a lot of french baggage when I spoke
english, I couldn't even pronounce island "iland")

However, I am willing to try more even if it doesn't sound like
an actual requirement from your explanation.

I have a bit of perfectionist tendencies.
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Y7
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 04:00 am
@InfraBlue,
Ok, are you a linguist?

Thank you for your feedback,

I guess I might have to articulate more

izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 05:47 am
@Y7,
Americans often struggle with accents other than American. Most of the television they watch is American so they have v little exposure to other accents. To compound that 'British' characters on American TV shows are often played by Americans whose accent is entirely unconvincing.

I've never had problems being understood anywhere, even in non English speaking countries like Denmark and Mexico, except for when I was in America. I had to speak a lot slower than normal and over enunciate my words in order to be understood by some people.

I had no problems understanding anything you were saying btw.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 11:09 am
@izzythepush,
I've visited the UK several times, and have never had any problems communicating with them. I understood what they said 100% of the time. My first visit was in the late 1950's only ten years after WWII, and the feeling of London at that time was much different than my visits later in the century. The food back then was not very good. I remember a sandwich I ordered which had thin slices of bread with one thin slice of meat. Fish and chips were very popular back then; they had shops all over London. Most have disappeared over the years.
What I loved about London was their excellent museums, and my favorite has been the National Gallery. I visited many of the most popular museums in London, and even visited Greenwich to visit the time meridian and Maritime Museum where they have a painting of the slaughter of Capt Cook, and I have visited the Capt Cook monument on the Big Island of Hawaii. These connections makes the travels more interesting.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 01:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You're extremely well travelled, I wouldn't think you had problems communicating at all.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 02:13 pm
@izzythepush,
What I love about world travel is making friends in many countries. I even have two friends in Moscow, Sergei and Oleg. Walter, Ulla and Ursula in Germany; Alan and Fiona Smith in Manchester, England; Francisco Baez in Mexico City; Bill and Randee in Malaysia; Bill and Yvonne in Singapore; Hiroshi and Carlos in Cuba; and friends in California, Chicago, Texas and NYC. I have also had the privilege of visiting many famous sites such as the Galapagos Islands, Vatican, flew to Mt Everest, Great Wall of China, Antarctica, Hammerfest - the northernmost city of the world, Ushuaia - the southernmost city of the world, dipped my feet the the Dead Sea a couple of times, Bethlehem where Jesus was born, Cruises on the Amazon - Yangtze - Elbe - Nile - Mississippi - across the Atlantic Ocean & Pacific Ocean, Lhasa, Pyramids of Giza, ... those are the most important. I've slowed down quite a bit the past several years, and limited mostly to domestic travel. My wife hates travel, but I have a Canadian travel buddy who lives in Mexico. He and I have traveled all over Europe, South America and Asia. In all, I have traveled to 88 countries.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 03:08 pm
@Y7,
Even in our country, the USA, we still have discrimination - especially against blacks. They do not get equal legal treatment, and many are killed by police. According to the 2010 census, blacks made up 38.9 million or 12% of our population. "In 2014, African Americans constituted 2.3 million, or 34%, of the total 6.8 million correctional population.
African Americans are incarcerated at more than 5 times the rate of whites."
Also, blacks serve longer terms for the same crime committed by whites.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2018 03:13 pm
@Y7,
Quote:
Injustice is just nurtured by human greed and pride.
And racial bigotry.
Did you know that us Japanese Americans were put into concentration camps during WWII because we looked like the enemy, but German and Italian Americans wasn't treated the same. That was obvious bigotry. There was no need to incarcerate Japanese Americans. The 442nd Infantry Division made up of Japanese Americans were the most decorated in WWII or any war the US has been involved. They received 7 Presidential Citations. Many volunteered from the concentration camps even after our Constitutional rights have been taken away. It's a history not many Americans are aware of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)
Y7
 
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Reply Mon 30 Apr, 2018 12:43 am
@cicerone imposter,
I see, mm,
history has got a lot to teach the world.
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Y7
 
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Reply Mon 30 Apr, 2018 12:48 am
@cicerone imposter,
I didn't have that information,

I thought it was peacetime after the work of Martin Luther King Jr
and the election of Obama as a potential symbol of social transformation.

Although I still see in movies how black Americans lives are portrayed in general, ghettos, single parents, abandoned youth in gangsterism and drugs...Is that an accurate picture?

Why is the law then not impartial following from what you have just mentioned?
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Y7
 
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Reply Mon 30 Apr, 2018 12:50 am
@izzythepush,
I see,
So are you trying to say that British English (at least the standard one that is learnt across the academic media and tv) is widely spread in the world or
its base accent is common to many countries in the world?
 

 
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