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Suspicion of cheating wife

 
 
Bob1607
 
Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 11:17 am
I would appreciate advice from anyone on my current situation. I have been married for 17 years and have 3 beautiful kids. Over the past while my relationship with my wife has changed and I'm so confused. Bit of background, prior to being married (when we were bf n gf) wife was out with other guys and had some sexual encounters too. She has admitted some things but has never been willing to talk about it all. In December of 2015 my wife went to a work night out. She txt me asks by her to pick her up but the message was different from any she sent before. Usually she would ask me to txt or call when I'd arrived but this time she asked me to txt when I was nearly there! I arrived and went to see if I could see her. She appeared with one of her colleagues but did not realise I was behind her! I overheard a conversation which was something to with those guys we met, her friend then said don't worry about it it'll be ok! Her friend then realised that I was behind them and quickly halted the conversation. She then turned and said to me , look after her she's a good woman! Some pictures appeared on social media but quickly disappeared!! So of all photos taken on this night out my wife does not appear in any of them despite all others being in them! The ones she was in were taken down quickly. On the drive home she said " its funny what happens at work nights out". I asked what happened and was told it's none of your business! When we arrived home she txt her colleague "omg what did I do". Her friend replied her her are you ok? The following day I posed a question as I it appeared to look if she had no wedding ring on in one of the photos that! I also mentioned the photos that were taken down! Now if it had been me I'd have said "what photos show me". But she immediately phoned a guy from work and said where are all the photos from last night! Then came the wedding ring, now again if that had been me I'd have said I'd never do that to you, whereas she said if I'd have done that then I'd put my hands up......so again my suspicion was raised as she didn't say she wouldn't have done that. A few days later I attended a fair at her work and her colleagues that spoke to me before couldn't look me in the eye and avoided any conversation or chat! My wife's colleague posted on Facebook "I hate girls who take the c**t out of there better halfs" and two of her other colleagues liked this, however the two that liked it are in there little group of 4! My wife who always likes everything that her friends/ colleagues post did not respond by liking this post! To me it seems that this could be a cover as they know something happens that night! So, onto the next bit.... our sex life has declined significantly and there's no kissing etc etc ever! She no longer sends me texts like she used to or any messages of love! I asked her why she never says I love you when she's in the phone and she told me I will never tell you I love you in front of my colleagues and I'll not show affection in public, it'll never happen! I can see the point if I was a terrible husband but I work hard to pay everything and I do all domestic chores at home too which I think is right. I love her and always try to make her feel special in various ways. So over the last few years I noticed various changes deleting messenger from our iPad, hiding her phone etc! I also noticed various stains etc appearing on underwear whilst I was putting on washing! So I purchased the onsite semen detection kit and over the last few days I have competed an AP (acid phosphatase test and a PSA test on several items of underwear, all tests have come me back positive. The last 2 PSA tests showed strong positive in less than a minute. Can anyone provide advice on how specific and accurate these test are. To have all come back positive seems pretty substantial. I tested another garment just with the AZp and that came back negative, so I know the test ain't showing any stain as positive! Now I know that PSA and AP have been found in women but I am still concerned that she is having an affair! The quickness of the test turning positive was overwhelming! I'm now thinking of having a microscopic test and DNA test done on the garments at a significant cost, but this is the last confirmatory test. Does anyone think the AP and PSA test is enough (as the manufacturer says the PSA is 100% specific) or should I have the microscopic test done too? I'm absolutely confused, gutted and alone, so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
 
jespah
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 12:16 pm
@Bob1607,
You are not going to like reading this. If you don't like me, feel free to click through to my profile and hit Ignore. I won't be offended. Here goes:
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When you start playing Junior CSI, it's all over but the shouting.

If my husband was trying to lab test my underwear, he'd be out on his ear, and for good reason, too (and we have been wed for over 25 years and he posts here and I love him till the end of time). When you do not trust someone, your relationship is over. Full stop.

Right now, you're just happily playing detective. And to what end? Divorce is no-fault pretty much everywhere in the United States and in most western countries, or you can plead irreconcilable differences. You don't need to prove cheating to get a divorce. You don't need it to get or share custody. You don't need it to get or minimize or eliminate spousal support, either.

Because what else is this bullshit leading to? You're going to confront her with the questionable stains on her panties and she'll decide to stay married to you? If you believe that, I have a bridge you might be interested in. It's cheap, but you'll have to move it yourself.

If she is cheating, it is probably over. If she isn't and you are falsely accusing her (and you are certainly going to drastic measures with little more than a few bits of body language and some hunches), then it's over. If you don't trust her (you don't), then it's over.

And consider the fine and dandy conversation you are going to have with your children when they find out what is going on - because they will. If their mother is cheating, they won't be so happy with her. But your pretend Sherlock act isn't going to endear you to them, either.

Consider your options and have a conversation with your wife. You know, like civilized people do. If your marriage is done, then work out how best you can co-parent your children, who are innocent in all of this. And please don't "stay together for the children". That doesn't do your offspring any favors. All it does is teach them that marriage sucks and love doesn't matter as much as saving money does. Some lesson, eh?

Oh, and a few carriage returns would be nice.

I will now go and yell at some kids to get off my lawn.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 02:07 pm
@jespah,
Excellent, as usual.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 02:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,

ain't she something?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 03:38 pm
@Region Philbis,

indubitably
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alex240101
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 03:49 pm
Yes, yes, I remember her.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 04:05 pm
@jespah,
Speaking about lawns, our's is brown due to the drought we've been having for the past several years. Some in our neighborhood started watering their lawns, and they're green now. I think we'll wait another year to see if we get more snow pack and rain before I start watering our lawn again.

Oh, my goodness! Look what I found. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-snowpack-survey-march-20170301-story.html

Gonna start watering again. Wink
jespah
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 04:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Ours is a jungle!
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 05:03 pm
@jespah,
Mine is a mare's nest, which is odd for a landscape architect.

In days of yore, we had a small early california bungalow, in Venice. That was slightly before I went to take those years of classes; of course I fooled around with our small yard, and lots of neighbor folks were interested. My husband was involved, but more on the "let's fix the place" tasks, which we both did. In time, I was involved in a couple of landarch practices that did some beautiful work. But, all along the watch tower, stuff could go right or wrong or in between, so there was always observation happening by me and/or associates.

Now, re my own rather ordinary place, I'm waiting for it to get cooler before I get my bod out there, weed pulling.

Off from the digression now.
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carbonman
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2017 10:43 am
@Bob1607,
Youve got enough evidence.When you present it to her she will freak out like that first commenter did. She may tell you its over in which case get the hell out of there before she does what my ex did, feigned fear to get a domestic violence intervention order in order to remove me from the house, restrict access to my son, and gain advantage in family court. If she decides you are redundant she may be encouranged by her counsel and motivated by financials to use this silver bullet approach. Beware!!

Maybe dont confront her with all the evidence, but commence amicable discussions on separation and have an overnight bag packed incase she decides to take the legal path. If she does dont waste money on asshole lawyers.
jespah
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2017 10:48 am
@carbonman,
That's not freaking out.

But hey, keep telling yourself that. And also keep telling yourself you can competently handle a nasty divorce case without a lawyer.
carbonman
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2017 05:56 pm
@jespah,
This woman is like a parasite who appears happy to completely destroy the father of her kids after hes dedicated his life to the marriage and you want to focus on whether he should have confirmed his suspicions?

Fair call regarding the need for a lawyer. Good idea to pay strictly by the hour to meet for proofreading and feedback on each affidavit and some strategy advice. Im saying signing a contract to engage a lawyer outright is not good because it invites them to actually promote, escalate and prolong conflict in order to drain you like a bath.

When someone shows you their true colours, believe them.
Bob, now you got proof there should be no doubt you need to act. Hard to make decisions in this environment, but go with your gut and always remain calm. An invite to marriage counselling might lead to an epiphany and she might come good. Otherwise you need to think really long term about how to maintain the best relationship with your kids. For what its worth Bob you will survive this **** and thank her one day, trust me.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2017 07:24 pm
@carbonman,
You seem to imply all attorney's are there to drain their bank account. Many attorneys do pro bono work. https://www.law.georgetown.edu/careers/opics/pro-bono/what_is_pro_bono/
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