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Vandalism

 
 
Airaux
 
Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 09:11 am
Do you think there's anything wrong with causing damage in a building if it's completely abandoned?
 
jespah
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 09:14 am
@Airaux,
Of course there is. The land is still owned by someone, and there are neighboring properties which are affected by a nearby building's vandalism and disrepair.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 09:25 am
@Airaux,
Yes.

1. The more you damage structurally, the more they will have to fix (if and when someone decides to restore and renovate the building for whatever reason).
2. Have you never heard of asbestos and other dangerously outdated and illegal construction material? You will likely run into that when you go rampaging through abandoned buildings. You (and other people interacting with and around the building) will be exposed to many of these hazardous materials by causing further damage to the structure.

You just might end up getting a well deserved Darwin Award for messing around with such things. Your loss.
3. Many buildings are abandoned for many reasons: Good luck exposing yourself to remaining chemical products and by products that have accumulated in the building's past industrial lives.
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Airaux
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 09:26 am
@jespah,
But what if it's a complete wreck and beyond repair and it's isolated from other buildings? surely that can't be doing any harm?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 09:50 am
@Airaux,
You just want people to say your criminal behaviour is OK. It's not.
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jespah
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 10:24 am
@Airaux,
Try telling that to a judge or jury.

Spoiler Alert: it won't make a damned bit of difference to them.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 10:31 am
@Airaux,
Airaux wrote:

But what if it's a complete wreck and beyond repair and it's isolated from other buildings? surely that can't be doing any harm?

I'm going to safely assume that you don't have an engineering degree ... or ANY degree at all.
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Airaux
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 01:34 pm
I don't have a degree - and don't see any connection.
Why say "my" criminal damage? I never mentioned me doing anything. But there were 3 kids - I think in Indiana - who smashed things in a derelict building recently and got a year in custody - it seeks a bit over the top, as no-one was hurt.
jespah
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 01:41 pm
@Airaux,
Except people's livelihoods were hurt, and their property values went down.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 01:45 pm
@Airaux,
Airaux wrote:

I don't have a degree - and don't see any connection.


You wouldn't.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 02:06 pm
Vandalism is a crime and it doesn't matter one jot whether the property has been abandoned.

The three individuals who committed the crime earned their punishment. They can also serve as warnings to future twits who think it'll be a grand idea to wreck things.
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Airaux
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 02:25 pm
@jespah,
I'm not saying what they did was right, but there was nobody being injured as you say and the property was already half-wrecked as I understand, so I can't see how property would have gone down.
ekename
 
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 07:20 pm
@Airaux,
I completely concur with what you were alluding to viz. that the sentence was out of all proportion to the crime.

And you should be burned at the stake for even daring to ask this question, or so it would seem.
Airaux
 
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Reply Tue 28 Mar, 2017 04:46 am
@ekename,
I hope and believe your last comment was sarcasm and your first point was to be taken at face value. I'm not condoning it, but it seems out of proportion considering some kids in gangs have killed someone and served strangely light sentences.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 28 Mar, 2017 06:06 am
@ekename,
ekename wrote:

I completely concur with what you were alluding to viz. that the sentence was out of all proportion to the crime.

Goof bucket? What are you babbling on about? No one mentioned, let alone implied a real world case including possible real world sentence and punishment.

You can't add context to something that has no context (while literally not having any specific details to you own ubervague alleged context).
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 28 Mar, 2017 06:12 am
Btw, saying that vandalism does no harm is very different from saying that the sentencing of two kids for vandalism seems unduly harsh. If the OP had expressed himself in those terms he might have got a more sympathetic response.
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ekename
 
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Reply Tue 28 Mar, 2017 07:12 am
@tsarstepan,
Quote:
Goof bucket? What are you babbling on about? No one mentioned, let alone implied a real world case including possible real world sentence and punishment.


I was babbling on about what Airaux noted:

Quote:
I never mentioned me doing anything. But there were 3 kids - I think in Indiana - who smashed things in a derelict building recently and got a year in custody - it seeks a bit over the top, as no-one was hurt.


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