Hillel Neuer shuts down the UN

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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 01:12 am
The Zionists arrogation of Palestine fomented discord and strife in the Middle East and North Africa. The reactions by the various countries therein merely exacerbated that discord and strife and the Zionists played these countries like fiddles, as it were, sowing discord withing these countries and their Jewish populations to provoke expulsions and emigrations of these peoples to their newly founded nation in order to populate it with Jews. This combined with the ethnic cleansing the Zionists perpetrated of the Palestinian populations in the areas that came under the their control lead to the present day demographics in Israel of a 75% Jewish majority, and a 20% Arab minority.

This though, is a red herring and does not negate in any manner the apartheid that the Zionists are carrying out in Palestine. Merely, it's an instance of the pot and kettles calling each other black.
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Reply Mon 27 Mar, 2017 09:27 am


An interesting questionnaire for Palestinian Advocates By Yashiko Sagamori

If you are so sure that " Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history," I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :

When was it founded and by whom?
What were its borders?
What was its capital?
What were its major cities?
What constituted the basis of its economy?
What was its form of government?
Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?
What was the language of the country of Palestine ?
What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine ?
What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.
And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?
You are lamenting the "low sinking" of a "once proud" nation. Please tell me, when exactly was that "nation" proud and what was it so proud of?

And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people you mistakenly call "Palestinians" are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over -- or thrown out of -- the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, why did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War?

I hope you avoid the temptation to trace the modern day "Palestinians" to the Biblical Philistines: substituting etymology for history won't work here.

The truth should be obvious to everyone who wants to know it. Arab countries have never abandoned the dream of destroying Israel ; they still cherish it today. Having time and again failed to achieve their evil goal with military means, they decided to fight Israel by proxy. For that purpose, they created a terrorist organization, cynically called it "the Palestinian people" and installed it in Gaza , Judea, and Samaria . How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to unconditionally accept back the "West Bank" and Gaza , respectively?

The fact is, Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have much less claim to nationhood than that Indian tribe that successfully emerged in Connecticut with the purpose of starting a tax-exempt casino: at least that tribe had a constructive goal that motivated them. The so-called "Palestinians" have only one motivation: the destruction of Israel , and in my book that is not sufficient to consider them a nation" -- or anything else except what they really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled.

In fact, there is only one way to achieve peace in the Middle East . Arab countries must acknowledge and accept their defeat in their war against Israel and, as the losing side should, pay Israel reparations for the more than 50 years of devastation they have visited on it. The most appropriate form of such reparations would be the removal of their terrorist organization from the land of Israel and accepting Israel 's ancient sovereignty over Gaza , Judea, and Samaria.

That will mark the end of the Palestinian people. What are you saying again was its beginning?
Reply Tue 28 Mar, 2017 01:02 am
The implications of these questions are red herrings and non sequiturs mostly. The assertions are outright lies.

About the only time there was a sovereign nation in Palestine was the time of the Maccabees and the Hasmonean dynasty that they founded in the late second to first centuries BCE and ruled for about one hundred and three years. The times before and after saw Palestine and its people being dominated by the powers in the region, e.g. Egypt, Assyria, Persians, Greeks, Romans, etc.

The Zionists confuse Biblical mythology for history, and ascribe for themselves ownership of Palestine because they or their ancestors follow or followed a religion founded therein. That's a risible justification for ownership of a region.

Genealogical research has confirmed that the Palestinian peoples are indigenous to Palestine. The Zionists are mostly descendants of Europeans that took on the Jewish religion in other parts of the Mediterranean region.

What the Zionists have to accept is that if want to ever achieve the peace they claim to desire they will have to own their responsibilities and give the Palestinians their due, the Right of Return and the dismantling of their necessarily oppressive ethnocentric state in favor of a truly pluralistic and egalitarian state in the whole of Palestine.
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