Milo Yiannopoulous and Burning Berkeley

I just listened to some of what Milo Yiannopoulous is saying. His basic argument is about Free Speech. Free Speech is offensive by definition (speech that isn't offensive doesn't need to be free). He says "my role is to throw bombs" and as he points out, in a free society that is a necessary role.

He is correct in what he is saying. Instead of responding to his point of view (and other points of view) the left is trying to shut out thinking.

The left is not only proving him right, it is showing that his message is relevant.

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@maxdancona,

I agree.

Care to take a stab at why the protest focused on him, or who
is behind these financed events we are seeing so much of?

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@Linkat,

Milo is a gay conservative male. Not exactly extreme right but middlist-right. The talks he gives are on third wave feminism, SJWs and BLM and the damage these movements are causing rather than fixing. That's why he's so hated but the usual way a person like this would be scared into silence is to attack their straight white male priveldge. But none of that works on him since the only label that's true is he is white. The thing is he is a great speaker and knows how to articulate the issues and address them with support to back up his statements. Something these groups don't and never do.

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@Krumple,

I will look him up...as I said this whole up roar is now causing middle stream people to now she what he is all about which is probably doing the opposite of what protesters are trying to do. If what you say is true, I find him an interesting character at the least.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

Black-clad protesters wearing masks threw commercial-grade fireworks and rocks at police. Some even hurled Molotov cocktails that ignited fires. They also smashed windows of the student union center on the Berkeley campus where the Yiannopoulos event was to be held.
At least six people were injured. Some were attacked by the agitators -- who are a part of an anarchist group known as the "Black Bloc" that has been causing problems in Oakland for years, said Dan Mogulof, UC Berkeley spokesman.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/

The rest of the demonstrators were peaceable.

How very reassuring.

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@Linkat,

OK after at least reading Wikipedia on this guy the whole violence is dunb. This is a nobody who has different viewpoints that you expect from someone who is gay. What is the up roar? If you don't agree you don't go end of story. He really doesn't seem to have anything much else than what I've seen with some others besides him being gay.

The whole violence is dumb and counterproductive .

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@Linkat,

Yes, these protests are dumb.

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Quote:

In October 2015, Yiannopoulos and feminist Julie Bindel were scheduled to participate in the University of Manchester Free Speech and Secular Society's debate ′From liberation to censorship: does modern feminism have a problem with free speech?′, but the Students' Union banned Bindel, then later also Yiannopoulos.[93] The Union cited Bindel's comments on transgender women and Yiannopoulos' opinions on rape culture, which they stated were both in breach of the Union's safe space policy.[94][95]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos

I found this wonderfully ironic.

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What is a 'safe space'?
I see it mention, but I have no idea what it is.

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@Frugal1,

Frugal1 wrote:

What is a 'safe space'?
I see it mention, but I have no idea what it is.

Basically it's about an atmosphere where you don't have to hear or be subjected to something said that will offend, upset, trigger or challenge your identity or beliefs.

Safe spaces are silly since single white males are not allowed a safe space because "they are the oppressors".

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@Krumple,

Silly indeed.

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@Kolyo,

Kolyo wrote:

Yes, these protests are dumb.

Are they as dumb as all the protests during the 1960s and even the 1970s? I'm not of the opinion that they're dumb, in and of themselves.

They're telling America, something is wrong with our society today...much the same as the protests by both blacks and whites during the Civil Rights era.

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@roger,

Black Bloc is a problem. They were prevented from coming into Canada when M Y was going to speak in Toronto last summer. The event was cancelled since his accompanying instigators were banned. I was pleased.

There was a nice peaceful protest without them, or him.

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@ehBeth,

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Black Bloc is a problem. They were prevented from coming into Canada when M Y was going to speak in Toronto last summer. The event was cancelled since his accompanying instigators were banned. I was pleased.

So Canada banned Black Bloc from coming there, and the Milo event was cancelled because Black Bloc was banned?

Quote:

There was a nice peaceful protest without them, or him.

No event but they protested anyways?

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@Miller,

Miller wrote:

Kolyo wrote:

Yes, these protests are dumb.

Are they as dumb as all the protests during the 1960s and even the 1970s? I'm not of the opinion that they're dumb, in and of themselves.

If the point is merely to voice disagreement with him, I have no quarrel.

If the point is to stop Milo from speaking, they are dumb. I don't think Milo has much of value to say if allowed to speak, and a forced silence on his part will speak louder than any words he could offer up.

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A treatment of the subject via The Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/06/free-speech-milo-yiannopoulos-alt-right-far-right?CMP=fb_gu

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