3
   

Is redeployment another word for layoffs?

 
 
DrewDad
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2017 03:45 pm
@ossobucotemp,
ossobucotemp wrote:

Link, I don't mean this in an ugly way, but I take you as a spoiled brat, living in a balloon.

Jesus.

And I take you to be a bitter person, jealous of other folks' good fortune.
ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2017 04:03 pm
@DrewDad,
Not so. I'm on, re for tune of people.
0 Replies
 
ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2017 04:09 pm
@DrewDad,
Not true.
ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2017 08:04 pm
@ossobucotemp,
I've read Linkat for many years and usually agreed with her or boosted her. Once in a while not. Apparently she has never noticed over the several years.

In this case, I have low toleration, which is not her problem, so I apologize, me stirred re what is going on in the world, but no excuse.

0 Replies
 
ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2017 09:22 pm
@DrewDad,
I had always liked you, but now I'm a bitter person.


DrewDad
 
  1  
Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2017 07:51 am
@ossobucotemp,
I'm actually kind of concerned for you.

Your social filter is leaking.
You seem to be perseverating.
You seem to be having trouble tracking some of the conversational threads that I've seen you in.


When was the last time you went to see your doctor?
ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2017 05:17 pm
@DrewDad,
I might assume many don't get my murmurs or occasional explosions.
There is a certain luckiness for some of us to be able post online. I suppose that is a new concept for you, I presume are an IT persom. I don't usually whail away but I can be sharp.

When was the last time you had that feral tooth checked?

See your doctor.

0 Replies
 
Miller
 
  1  
Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2017 10:44 am
@Linkat,
NYTimes, today, has a major piece on Fidelity paying high earning employees to take an early retirement.

May be "redeployment" is the new term for early termination, today.
0 Replies
 
Linkat
 
  4  
Reply Tue 13 Jun, 2017 06:15 am
We were told before that we would find out about June 1st. I found out a bit later - probably wanted to wait until we were through a good part of our "busy" cycle.

I could read the writing on the wall a bit earlier as one of the things I have a greater knowledge on, I started getting questions and asked to show the details of it. Not to mention just a few other things.

I had filled out a Family Leave Act form to protect myself as I had a child requiring surgery and then a long recovery (I just needed time off for the surgery and then for follow up visits and other things) - I am in a position to work from home so I could this while attending to her.

Any way I am going to be moved to a new group - I lucked out in that they needed a person in my level/position for another client as the person in their group left. This client already went through what my present client is - so they are already downsize leaving me in a currently more secure position - just lucky with the timing.

It was hard for to try to search for a new job because of the surgery, her recovery and my other daughter getting ready for college. I still have this on a back burner though. For the shorter term meaning a year or two I should be secure. And my new boss is even more flexible than my last so even though I do have approval for the Family Act, it makes it easier because I won't fear I will be "punished" via raises and bonuses because of working from home more often to accommodate PT and doctor's appointments.
CalamityJane
 
  2  
Reply Tue 13 Jun, 2017 03:31 pm
@Linkat,
Sounds good and you'll be safe for another year or two, but don't wait too long to get another job - depending on your age, it's difficult to get a decent job after 5o or 55, keep that in mind.

Good luck for your daughter's surgery!
Blickers
 
  1  
Reply Tue 13 Jun, 2017 10:18 pm
@Linkat,
I too am glad to see that things have worked out temporarily. But it does sound like you have been in an uncertain situation for a number of years now. So here's hoping you land something more reliable soon, or the company turns around and decides to stay where it is.
Linkat
 
  1  
Reply Wed 14 Jun, 2017 07:23 am
@Blickers,
The company is doing fine - it is actually obtaining additional business so it isn't that the company is leaving or hurting financially it is simply outsourcing jobs. It is significantly cheaper for property and salaries overseas - we were quoted in one meeting what the cost is overseas vs here locally and it is pretty much pennies on the dollars. This is why whenever you call customer service you can tell by the accent it is likely from overseas.

The problem is this is no different than most other companies in my industry (not to mention almost every industry).

I actually left one company 5 years ago because my job was moving across country - so it was either move with it or get another job. I did consider relocating once before, but due to the housing market at the time I had difficulty selling my home and my company kept extending me and when another opening came available locally they just moved me into it - then flash forward another 5 years or so and the same thing was happening to my job; my kids were older and life changes and there was no way we were going through that all again.

A friend knew of a position and I was a great fit for it and so I took it. Been here 5 years (with another internal transfer).

Our office overseas is actually hiring people that work for another local financial company so yes it is becoming the norm to open offices in places like China and India for cheap property and labor from entry level to VP positions.
0 Replies
 
Linkat
 
  2  
Reply Wed 14 Jun, 2017 07:25 am
@CalamityJane,
Thanks unfortunately I am in that age group now - per recruiters I am "seasoned". The one plus is I do look much younger so unless someone were to do the actual math on how long I have been in the work force - it is unlikely they would realize my "seasoned" age.
0 Replies
 
Linkat
 
  5  
Reply Fri 7 Jul, 2017 08:44 am
So I am redeployed - this group is a mess to be blunt.

They have already experienced moving most of the work to overseas. The overseas workers are complaining that they don't know how to do stuff and haven't been trained on things - the person that was responsible for training is no longer in the group. Others are somewhat new to the client. The client isn't happy and there has been messy deliverables to them.

Because it is so busy - I offered up my vacation time for these two weeks and am coming in - I will get this vacation some time later so I won't lose just won't use it now.

Right now I am trying to help with whatever I can simply by looking up any procedures that is written up and comparing info to last period. I have little to go on as the group is stretched to the limits and don't have ability to show me specific stuff applicable to the group - for example I am reviewing the type of regulations I haven't seen for 5 years -

My previous group - when they notified the client I was no longer working there, they were very angry and they were not mollified by the explanation that work was going to our associates overseas.

Unfortunately those that decide this sort of thing just come up with a timeline and you need to meet it no matter how you explain it isn't as easy to transfer things and the is not so straight forward you can write up procedures and expect them to understand it -it is a complicated industry with much regulation -

All I can say is it is damn ugly.
DrewDad
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Jul, 2017 09:39 am
@Linkat,
Can't tell you how many horror stories I've heard about outsourcing/offshoring.

Looks good to the bottom line initially, but it can kill innovation, motivation, and agility.

"Culture eats strategy for breakfast."
Linkat
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Jul, 2017 10:02 am
@DrewDad,
To top it off all employees at a certain level and above had to attend this "Speak up and Talk or Listen ===something like that class. this class was geared to encouraging us to speak up when we saw/heard or experienced something that didn't seem quite right.

During the class, the person leading asked the question - have you ever spoke and/or made comments on the employee survey in which you feel the company or upper management did not respond? I did not hesitate to raise my hand. I have - and to no avail - basically you are ignored. You mention concern and they take it as if you are just being difficult rather than having legit concerns.

So on the surface - they say to speak up - but they don't want you to.
roger
 
  0  
Reply Fri 7 Jul, 2017 12:00 pm
@Linkat,
Linkat wrote:

So on the surface - they say to speak up - but they don't want you to.


Well, it does give everybody a nice, warm, fuzzy sense of participation, doesn't it.

I have seen similar ploys from several employers, which is enough to make me think it's nearly universal.
DrewDad
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Jul, 2017 12:59 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:
Well, it does give everybody a nice, warm, fuzzy sense of participation, doesn't it.

I'm sure they think so.

Meanwhile, let's not discuss that large, grey animal with the weird nose standing right over there....
DrewDad
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Jul, 2017 01:02 pm
@DrewDad,
My company actually did listen, though.

It was pretty chaotic, with some high-level departures, for a while. Things seem to have settled down, and my team is doing much better.
0 Replies
 
Linkat
 
  1  
Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2017 11:45 am
It seems it is getting more ugly – not just my group but others going through this redeployment and moving overseas, etc. Found out another group that went through this – they pretty much lost everyone left behind – from the VP downward. All seem to have left the company or moved elsewhere in the group.
I gave up my vacation time and basically would not even have started in the group until next week other than I knew they were in a bad situation (and my personal situation changed where I wasn’t going any where on most of the days I took off).
So I am getting a message like this (in reference to one individual who has been with this group the longest) – I am one of the two:
I am worried that mapping issues will come up Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday when she is out and we are all looking at each other. We need you 2 to start rolling up the sleeves to assist here as well.
I cut out the other stuff – but basically I have been offering to learn all this stuff – it is more computer/systems related that you typically see staff/analysts positions handling and helping our overseas associates as they really have limited knowledge even though they are supposed to be able to handle all this. Whereas the regulatory items fall into people in position.
Most of the stuff isn’t hard, but our systems for lack of a better term, suck. They are not intivitive. So basically you have had to experience this rather than be able to figure it out. The IT team really should be handling it, but due to having to take care of things quickly those preparing reports, typically learn how to fix these items themselves.
I am just taking the stance, I will learn as much as possible in a couple of hours that she can show me. Not my fault that someone(s) so far up they probably never even entered the building I work in, made this decision that is screwing up every group that has transitioned. I will do the best I can and too bad the results.

Not to mention I just came off the busy season at my former group and am moving into a group that it is their busy season – so I get no break but the 3 vacation days I took. And as you can read above they are expecting us to work Saturday and Sunday too. I already said I will not be around on Saturday, but offerred to be available on Sunday (only because my husband and daughter are going away to a few days).
 

 
Copyright © 2025 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.03 seconds on 01/22/2025 at 12:00:24