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Words in direct quotations

 
 
Nat093
 
Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 03:48 am
I would like to ensure in one matter concerning the use of direct quotations.

If I use British English spelling rules, for example, I write 'lexicalisation', 'lexicalised', etc. and I directly quote an author who uses the word 'lexicalized' in a sentence, I cannot change/update it to 'lexicalised', right?
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 04:42 am
@Nat093,
If I understand your question correctly...

No, you should not alter a quote. If there is a spelling error by the writer you are quoting, the proper way to handle this is to put [sic] immediately following the error:

"John put his hatt [sic] on the bed"
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centrox
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 07:57 am
We British English speakers are used to quoting American spelling. Don't do anything, especially don't [sic] it. Just quote as-is.
Nat093
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 09:42 am
Thank you.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 12:28 pm
@Nat093,
Nat no offense but ur q isn't clear
centrox
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 12:37 pm
@dalehileman,
Quote:
Nat no offense but ur q isn't clear

It is one hundred percent clear.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 12:41 pm
@centrox,
Okay Cen thanks but wonder if you cold rephrase it for the benefit of the a2k aged and otherwise below-par (me)
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 12:49 pm
@Nat093,
Quote:
I write 'lexicalisation', 'lexicalised', etc.
I'm in exhaustion from lexicalisation

Quote:
If...directly quote an author who uses the word 'lexicalized'
Manuel Exitis III writes, "My subject has everyday 'lexicalized' his previous writings"

Quote:
I cannot change/update it to 'lexicalised', right?


Then mujst "I'm in exhaustion from lexicalized" be wrong
But of course
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 12:50 pm
@centrox,
Quote:
one hundred percent
Cen see #...808
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centrox
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 12:54 pm
His writing style has to be British English. We spell certain word e.g. realise, specialise, idolise, with -ise at the end. Americans on the other hand use the -ize spelling. He asks whether, if he is quoting, in between quotation marks, a piece of American writing which includes such a word, he should change the spelling from British to American style. My answer was 'No, leave it alone'.

dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 01:08 pm
@centrox,
Thanks Cen but I'm still hopelessly confused

I presume "His" refers to Tang but then "We" and "he" leave me in a state of 86-year-old sputternation, and it's not sure what " 'he' 's" "quoting"

Perhaps another a2k who shares my consternation could intervene

Nonthelees Cen thanks for trying to enlighten the Hopelessly Ignorant a2k'er (me)
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Nat093
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 01:14 pm
Can I change the spelling outside the direct quotation?

For example, after mentioning the term 'lexicalization' in a quotation, can I then use it with British English spelling? As in:
"According to Plag (2005: 45) 'such atypical behviour is the result of lexicalization.' However, lexicalisation..."

What about the names of theroies?

For example here is a sentence:
"Brown (2005: 34) formulates the so-called Generalized Lexicalist Hypothesis."

If I want to discuss the hypothesis, I should still refer to it as 'Generalized Lexicalist Hypothesis', or I may change 'z' to 's' as in 'Generalised Lexicalist Hypothesis.' Personally I think that it would be a strange way to do so, but I do not know.
centrox
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 01:20 pm
I would leave an isolated quoted American spelling alone if it swam in a sea of British English. However, in a situation such as you describe, I would definitely avoid frequent switches back and forth. I would choose one style or the other and apply it consistently. My choice would depend on my intended audience.

dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 01:29 pm
@Nat093,
Thanks Nat it's getting clearer
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Nat093
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 02:14 pm
@centrox,
You says "I would leave an isolated quoted American spelling alone if it swam in a sea of British English."

I am afraid I do not understand your point here. Can you explain it to me, please?


So, can I just use the British spelling from the very beginning?
That is, can I write "Brown (2005: 34) formulates the so-called Generalised Lexicalist Hypothesis." (although he originally uses 'Generalized Lexicalist Hypothesis')?


In my first example (below) there is a direct quotation so I cannot change the spelling.

"According to Plag (2005: 45) 'such atypical behviour is the result of lexicalization.' However, lexicalisation..."
centrox
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 02:47 pm
@Nat093,
I withdraw all advice except to change all spellings, quoted or otherwise, to the style, American or English, that you choose to use.
Nat093
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 02:59 pm
@centrox,
I have read on the Internet that

"British spelling mostly uses -ise, while -ize is also used (organise/organize, realise/realize, recognise/recognize)"

"Verbs in British English that can be spelled with either -ize or -ise at the end."

Is that true?

Can I then use words like 'recognize', 'characterize', etc. together with, for example, 'behaviour' ?
dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 03:03 pm
@Nat093,
Keeps getting more and more involved doesn't it Nat
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centrox
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 05:41 pm
For the verbs in question, it is misleading, wrong, and an over-simplification to say that all Americans write -ize and all Brits write -ise. Both spellings are correct in both regions. Each region has one variant which is the majority usage, and one which is the minority usage. Many US/British "differences" are of this type.

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Nat093
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jan, 2017 03:28 am
@centrox,
The same applies to examples that I take from books?
For example, here is a passage:
"Bauer (2006: 45) cites examples such as 'realization', 'generalization', etc."

I should cite the examples with their original (American) spelling?
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