How innesential are women, anyway? Techs seem to say no room

I'll try this again with better spelling in a title another day.

You did fine, osso. No need to redo it.

I think there are several things that get overlooked on studies when it comes to professions of "male dominance" and the interactions of leading roles within those professions. Take a situation where two men are having a debate over a project or goal. If they dissagree their "sex" isn't brought up as a factor in the disagreement. I think in some situations it is a go to card to claim the disagreement is based on sex when the debate is between a man and woman. In some cases it may be true but not in all of them yet when it is brought up it always tends to take the sympathy for it being true. It's just too easy to cry foul to get your way. I think a woman who deserves her position in a profession will never use such an angle but instead rely on her ability and skill in her work to lead to merit of what should be decided. If it gets overlooked then it's a shame but when that merit is undeserving get wine by playing victim of mosagony it's even more shameful.

I've been in the high tech industry for years. I can't say what motivates other people when populating their twitter feeds, but I can say for certain that when I reach out to hire new people I routinely get far more resumes from men than from women (It's at least a 90% male to 10% female split, maybe more). So it doesn't surprise me that there are more men in high tech than women. And on a pure probability basis, all skills being equal I would expect to see the same dispersal in industry presence, which is pretty much what we see.

So I think this imbalance occurs much earlier than at the corporate level. I think it's occurring at the early school levels and then propagating upward through graduation, but I don't know what's causing it at the earliest stages. I don't know if it's a societal bias which affects what youngsters are interested in, or if it has a gender/biological basis of some sort.

I have a young daughter, and she is very good at technology and very exposed to it (due to my own lifestyle and skills), but she is not focused on technology or on anything else in particular yet. I'm not going to push her one way or the other. I'm going to let her go her own way and see where she goes. I can't change the effects society has on her, but I can make sure she knows she can go any way she wants to go, and that she can compete effectively no matter what she chooses. In 15 years maybe I'll have a better idea of what guides kids in the direction they go.

I'll easily agree the imbalance starts much earlier. I'm open to it being a natural imbalance of interests/inclinations (seems most likely to me) or maybe a mix of natural imbalance and possibly lack of parental or teaching smarts re childrens' capabilities.. There may be bias going on in the field too, but it's not the first thing I think of as a cause for the imbalance.

In general, I find techies and engineers to be just about the most pragmatic group you are likely to find. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, and who can say about these Black Swans like Elon Musk and Zuckerberg, they are pretty much the definition of unpredictable. But in general I don't see much intentional bias in technology companies (as a matter of fact, I can't remember ever witnessing or hearing any bias in any hiring decisions that I've been involved in, and I would have been shocked and perplexed if I did). The roles they are trying to fill in technology are very lucrative for them, and most businesses would usually "eat a bug" if it would make them money, so they tend to focus on results more than the face it comes with. At least that's my experience.

That being said, there is clearly a disparity in gender and in races in technology companies. I just don't know what the root cause of it is.

Men took over a job fair intended for women and nonbinary tech workers