Tell me why i should worship your god among the others
Hey momoends, sorry I'm getting back to you so late. I've been away. Well, the God that I'm talking about is the God of the Bible, Jehovah. Among the reasons that make him worthy of worship is that he truly desires the best for mankind. For example, he and his Son, Jesus, have made it possible for us to have the opportunity to live forever in total perfection and peace.
This means that despite the troubles we see and experience today, soon they will be a thing of the past. Imagine what life on the earth will be like when these texts are fullfilled:
Psalm 37:29 - "Righteous to live on the earth in complete security"
Psalm 46:9 - "All wars to cease, war weapons done away with"
Matthew 5:5 - "Only the meek and peaceable to inherit the earth"
Proverbs 2:22 - "Wicked to be completely removed"
Revelation 21:3, 4 - "All sorrow, suffering, pain and death will be no more"
In his Word he also explains why we suffer today and at the same time reveals Satan to be the true cause of our suffering. God has never been the cause of trails and tests upon good people as James 1:13 shows.
But these are only but a few reasons why Jehovah is worthy of worship.
Does the Bible allow for true Christians to have a homophobic view of homosexuals, to mistreat and disrespect them? Here is a wonderful article that shows what the Bible teaches about homosexuality and how true Christians should view and treat them with respect. It also shows Christians how they can, in a respectful way, present their beliefs in a way that also generates mutual respect.
Here is what the Bible plainly teaches. We are to Love One Another. PERIOD. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ COMMANDED us to Love One Another, so do it.
Quote:Here is what the Bible plainly teaches. We are to Love One Another. PERIOD. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ COMMANDED us to Love One Another, so do it.
You know Dave, I agree with you as far as the goal goes. But how to get there is a lot tougher thing. The heart wants what it wants. You can’t command Love. You can only love what you see as lovable, and when you do, you don’t have much choice about how to react. It’s just how we were created. Anything else is just pretending.
What we were commanded to do was to look for what is lovable In others. You don’t have to fake it after that. You don’t have to love anything that isn’t.
Tell me, at the conclusion of his plan, what is God going to do with everything that he does not see as lovable?
This has nothing to do with either your ego or mine, so drop the personal bs if you want to discuss theology.
Why don't you answer your own question by looking at the sins that you don't consider 'loveable' and what should be done with those sins and the people/sinners who are captivated by them?
Quote:Why don't you answer your own question by looking at the sins that you don't consider 'loveable' and what should be done with those sins and the people/sinners who are captivated by them?
Thanks for asking.
The Sins? I never mentioned them, just the people, and whether or not there was anything lovable there. It’s kind of a binary thing with me. You're either lovable or not. I can’t make myself love the unlovable. Nor can I accept limits on how many I can love.
One of the biggest lies ever told was that 'God's love is unconditional'. If God does not accept the unlovable, why should we? What’s your take on that?
Love has limits if you define it in material terms. Spiritually there is no limit to how much good we can wish for others. God's love is unlimited, so why would we want it withheld? Even when it's tough love, it makes things better . . . at least until they fight against it and get worse again.
Quote:Did I define love in material terms? Why did you go there?Love has limits if you define it in material terms. Spiritually there is no limit to how much good we can wish for others. God's love is unlimited, so why would we want it withheld? Even when it's tough love, it makes things better . . . at least until they fight against it and get worse again.
'Unconditional love' when looked at closely is nonsense. Describing it as unconditional destroys any value Love might have. A person might not have any redeeming qualities at all, but if they at least want to acquire them, that is admirable and worthy of love. Without that, they are not. That seems to be God's standard, why should I not have the same?
But the thing that convinces me that 'unconditional love' is invalid, is that if it was given to me when I knew there was truly nothing redeemable about me, it would make me feel even more worthless and inadequate. I would want to cease existing. I would have no more value than a rock. Unconditional love is the only kind you can have for the purely material. Is that how you want to be loved?