HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO RECOGNIZE AT THE UNIVERSE THAT THE REAL CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE REALLY EXISTS?

Your hypothesis fails. I have no religion. The very things you mention, reasoning and logic, compel me to ask you for evidence. Otherwise, your crazy story is just another in a long line of crazy stories. How to choose among them? Well, the one that can produce evidence wins. You're not doing that.

That is your decision .

I wish it had been your decision to reveal your evidence. Your evangelism is dead without it. Better luck next forum.

In so many forums (about 20 or more) I tried to say the truth .

Till now nobody grasped it . But I hope what I said causes a little change .

More is in this time with t h i s mankind not possible . But i will try it further .

The definition of trying the same thing over and over again, expecting different results? Either insanity or stupidity, according to the world at large. However, once credible evidence is provided, all those doubters have no other option than to STFU. If only you had a single shred of said evidence, you could transform the world. What do you have to show us? I assume you want to succeed. Then show us your evidence.

Concentrate to the point ! Nothing else .

I am. Where's your evidence? That's the very point. Otherwise, you've got noting more than just another wild-ass story. There are lots of wild-ass stories floating around. What's special about yours if you don't have evidence?

No chance in the moment .

Well Man, I guess my position is pretty much the same aw FBM's. We need some sort of convincing evidence--or at least a kind of intuitive grasp

So I'd ask again--and for the last time I hope, why does there hafta be a Creator? Why couldn't the Whole thing, He/She/It, have existed forever

short answer : to create something needs unimaginable superior logic (and
power) . That something was there since ever also , of course .

OK, so you've got nothing. Good luck convincing rational people that there's an invisible guy-in-the-sky on the strength of ALL CAPS and numerous exclamation points!!!!!

Why you and almost all of this mankind cannot recognize at the existence
of the universe that the (real) creator of the universe exists , I know now :
you and almost all people of this mankind of this mankind are too bad people .
You can improve , when you do what we have to do here :
try to treat the creation - men and nature - as well as possible .
With other words : try to learn to live in real harmony (loving , responsible ,
sharing) with the creation - men and nature .
This is in this bad world only a little possible , but do your best !

What's the point of just repeating the same old story over and over again? Why should anyone believe you?

Because that is the truth . And you are able to recognize it , because you and
almost the whole mankind are too bad .
Try to improve your life !

Prove it. Give us a reason to believe what you say.

Use reason and logic and the sure facts of the universe (especially this world)

Well, I am using reasoning and logic when I ask you for evidence. You haven't shown any evidence yet. Just loud rhetoric. When you produce some evidence, we can do some reasoning and logic based on it. So far, you haven't. So, again I ask, "Why should we believe you?"

Sorry , you cannot understand it , you are a too bad man .
Try to improve .

Of course, anyone who doesn't blindly obey your dictums would be a bad person in your mind. But how about trying to be a better representative of your faith? Like, using some of that reasoning and logic you proclaim by providing some evidence to support your claims?

I have no faith , I know .
And it is your turn to recognize .