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San Bernardino shooting: At least 14 people killed

 
 
Pitter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Dec, 2015 09:19 am
@revelette2,
I meant reply to all, sorry

Apart from the issue of gun availability which is now a horse out of the barn America seems to be coming apart at the seams. It appears to be being torn asunder by old issues like race and abortion, the relatively recent issue of sexual identity and associated laws and now the Muslim wave. The Economist says. "the beat is quickening: such events have occurred this year at a rate of more than one per day, and in almost every state, according to the Mass Shootings Tracker."

Doesn't sound promising at all.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 3 Dec, 2015 10:40 pm
Today in the Congress a bill was squashed that would prevent people on the no-fly list from buying guns. In other words, you can be prevented from boarding an airplane, but you can still buy all the guns your heart desires.

Lets give a big shout out to the NRA for making sure that potential terrorists in the US can still buy lots and lots of guns and build bombs. I think the NRA has perverted the intent of the second amendment.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 12:53 am
OMG: These motherfucking generally useless "journalists" are almost toying with calling this an islamic terrorist attack....or more likely whatever the current cutsy soft euphemism for that is in this weeks directory from the elite on approved language.

This is pretty ******* embarrassing though, sooner would be better than later.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 03:45 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
They'll leave that to President Obama who has already made a statement addressing it as another senseless mass shooting "without parallel anywhere in the world" Other than Paris, Nairobi and Mali of course.


When these atrocities happen elsewhere it's always an act of terrorism. Only in America is there a possibility that some "good ol' boy" has used guns to settle a petty argument.
revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 07:07 am
@hawkeye10,
Just perhaps they would rather wait for the evidence to come in before making definitive statements. At this point, we really don't know despite the stockpiles of weapons at home rather it was work related or terrorism or both. There is reason to suspect both.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 09:48 am

News reports are saying that the wife of the shooter had pledged allegiance to Islamic State.

EDIT: http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 10:37 am
@revelette2,
You should know.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 10:56 am
@Lash,
Of course it was terrorism. The question was (or perhaps still is) what kind of it.

What would be a question in other countries - 'where and how did they get the weapons' - isn't one, it seems.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 11:04 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Read today that the woman had pledged allegiance to IS on some facebook account...

It's hard to terrorize a people that's numbed by so many mass murders, though.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 11:31 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

You should know.


She should know what? I don't know what you're talking about? If you do, perhaps you can explain.
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 11:41 am
@Walter Hinteler,
It's becoming the vogue now not to call Islamic terrorism by its name. I'm not playing that new, irritating game.

We all know it was Islamic terrorism - unless you are squeezing your eyelids closed over the articles.

Feigning ignorance about it doesn't help Islam.
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 12:15 pm
@Lash,
This time, they link it to ISIS. Ten years ago, it would have been Al Qaeda. Islamic terror was once popularly branded with Al Qaeda. Now they use the Islamic State.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 12:32 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
We all know it was Islamic terrorism - unless you are squeezing your eyelids closed over the articles.
I don't. But that might be related to the fact, I get the police results here later.
neologist
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 01:11 pm
For a while I thought it perhaps a twisted attempt to conceal the murder of a single individual.

Guess I was wrong.

Scary.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 02:46 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Feigning ignorance about it doesn't help Islam.


Neither does calling Islamist terrorism Islamic. There is a huge difference, and browbeating others about their supposedly feigned ignorance does nothing to hide your own very real ignorance. It is deliciously ironic though, like someone asking if the Jews were really controlled Stalin and then going on to teach a class on the Holocaust.

It's not a typo either, you wrote Islamic twice.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 03:19 pm
Quote:
Update, 3:50 p.m.: The FBI is officially treating the San Bernardino massacre "as an act of terrorism,"

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/12/04/san_bernardino_shooting_updates_syed_farook_tashfeen_malik_investigated.html

That took way too long.
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 03:50 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I see. You hadn't seen the news.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 03:57 pm
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12314051_1240362969389219_5386878971263274054_n.jpg?oh=10d2aba36bc1730a77ff2b5b48be0130&oe=56E62269
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 04:10 pm
CAIR Director on CNN: U.S. 'Partly Responsible' For Islamic Terrorism
Mediaite‎ - 5 hours ago
Liberals are not soft on, sympathetic towards, or defensive about Islamic terrorism
Salon‎ - 2 hours ago
Islamic Terrorism Is Real, Hillary Clinton | National Review ...
www.nationalreview.com/.../islamic-terrorism-hillary-cli...
National Review
17 hours ago - In the aftermath of Paris and before San Bernardino, Hillary Clinton articulated the forced catechism of the Left: “Let's be clear: Islam is not our ...
The Evolution Of Islamic Terrorism - An Overview | Target ...
www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html
PBS

The media seems to be hesitating strenuously to say Islamic terrorism. I don't know why, but it smacks of dishonesty and an unattractive, extreme case of PC.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 11:52 pm
@Lash,
What makes me wonder is that although the Islamic State quickly asserted responsibility for last month’s shootings in Paris and for other recent attacks, the group so far does not appear to have done the same for the San Bernardino shooting. At least not on any of the known Islamistic websites.
 

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