@layman,
Quote:For enslaving reason and forcing it to do it's bidding when trying to define "justification," I guess.
You can always tune-in to the passionate base of stuff like that by noticing what's at stake. Since internalism of various kinds is related to philosophy of mind, I'd say the passion on the scene has to do with competing conceptions of reality.
On one extreme, the universe and all its inhabitants are essentially dead. Some little blobs of dead matter don't seem to realize they're dead. But that's just because they're incredibly arrogant.
On the other extreme, the universe is something like a vast leviathan humming Bach's Air on the G String. Some of the debris on its scales is upset because it wanted to live forever.
Sorry. What were we talking about?