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Can We Talk About the Education Elites Valuation of Homework?

 
 
Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 05:26 pm
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Researchers at the University of Chicago led by Erin A. Maloney analyzed the math attitudes and abilities of more than 400 first- and second-graders, using a data set that was part of a larger, unrelated study. The kids were tested twice on their math skills, once at the beginning of the year and once toward the end; they were also asked how nervous all things math-related made them, like tests or being called on by a teacher to answer an addition question. Their parents took surveys, too, to measure their math anxiety and how much they'd helped their kids with homework over the school year.

In the end, the kids with math-anxious parents learned less math during the school year, and they were also more likely become more math-anxious themselves — but only if their parents had helped them with homework. "Notably, when parents reported helping with math homework less often, children's math achievement and attitudes were not related to parents' math anxiety," Maloney and her co-authors write in their paper. So if the parents who hate math didn't try helping with homework, their kids fared about as well as the children of parents who had less math anxiety

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/08/how-parents-give-their-kids-math-anxiety.html

For a long time now we have been told by the elite that our kids need to have lots of homework, almost to the point of the more the better, and that parents have an obligation to help them do it. Really? Says what science? Who says that our kids should be spending that much time on work that the Education system pushes on them rather than all of the other things they could be doing, which is to say all the other ways they could be learning? And what are we saying when the take home work is often brain numbingly stupid

I think that it is time to make homework optional like standardized testing. If the Education elite insist upon running our schools poorly at least let us opt out of some of the more intrusive and stupid stuff they try to make our kids do.

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Did doing it make any difference? The Maltese et al. study looked at the effect on test scores and on grades. They emphasized the latter, but let’s get the former out of the way first.

Was there a correlation between the amount of homework that high school students reported doing and their scores on standardized math and science tests? Yes, and it was statistically significant but “very modest”: Even assuming the existence of a causal relationship, which is by no means clear, one or two hours’ worth of homework every day buys you two or three points on a test. Is that really worth the frustration, exhaustion, family conflict, loss of time for other activities, and potential diminution of interest in learning? And how meaningful a measure were those tests in the first place, since, as the authors concede, they’re timed measures of mostly mechanical skills? (Thus, a headline that reads “Study finds homework boosts achievement” can be translated as “A relentless regimen of after-school drill-and-skill can raise scores a wee bit on tests of rote learning.”)

But it was grades, not tests, that Maltese and his colleagues really cared about. They were proud of having looked at transcript data in order to figure out “the exact grade a student received in each class [that he or she] completed” so they could compare that to how much homework the student did. Previous research has looked only at students’ overall grade-point averages.


And the result of this fine-tuned investigation? There was no relationship whatsoever between time spent on homework and course grade, and “no substantive difference in grades between students who complete homework and those who do not.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2012/11/26/homework-an-unnecessary-evil-surprising-findings-from-new-research/

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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 05:47 pm
@hawkeye10,
I say that I for one used to love math and even taught myself how to used my father old wooden slide ruler in grade school.

Even reading some of Asimov books on math at those grade levels.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 05:49 pm
@BillRM,
Maybe you should have been doing it as hobby then, but not as homework.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 05:56 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Maybe you should have been doing it as hobby then, but not as homework.


I in fact did fool around with math and math related subjects as a hobby but not until I reached Maxwell electromagnet theories and applying same did I run into any problem doing math work in or out of the classroom.

Too bad that such calculators such as the t-59 was not then on the market to help me deal with those damn equations.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 06:18 pm
@hawkeye10,
a lot of shools in the Pa districts have STEM palaces that are "mgnet" centers for kids whose demonstrated skills and Aptitudes are high enough to take on what , in upper grades, becomes an ndergraduate level study program. Homework is given but its usually "Interdisciplnary" , not mere solving book problems or doing xercises but doing actual scientific studies ( Two yers ago, I helped a STEM center set up a combined geophysics, surveying, math, and histroy exercise). It was the "Hunt for an archeological site" that was set up in a fallow field.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 06:19 pm
@farmerman,
PS, "educational elites" man , did you have a hard on for the education industry?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 06:41 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

PS, "educational elites" man , did you have a hard on for the education industry?

I have a rabid hostility towards the Universities that train our teachers, I hold them most responsible for the failure of the American Education System.
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