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Sould the supreme court rulings be the last word?

 
 
Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 02:54 pm
The Supreme Court has gone way beyond their power to judge. No where in the constitution will you find any mention of gay rights, abortion restrictions, voting restrictions, gerrymandering, drugs or unlimited political money, The supreme court is only one of the three equal pillars of power, not the supreme decider of all issues. Why doesn't Obama and congress take them on, exercise their own power to okay or veto all supreme court decisions?

 
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 03:40 pm
@Rickoshay75,
Because the Supreme Court as presently constituted is just what a republican congress wants because they have made congress rich with their corporations are exercising free speech with their buying of congress with big bucks bull shyt. Elect a republican president so he can put 2 or 3 more conservative judges in position to rape the public with more decisions like free speech by corporations.
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 04:04 pm
@Rickoshay75,
Rickoshay75 wrote:
Why doesn't Obama and congress take them on, exercise their own power to okay or veto all supreme court decisions?
It doesn't work that way.
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 04:07 pm
@RABEL222,
F.D.R. tried the Supreme Court Packing Bill in the 1930's. It didn't work then, not likely now.
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 04:58 pm
@neologist,
Oops. Sorry.
Misread your post
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jcboy
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 05:49 pm
Despite title, Supreme Court not always last word

Quote:
WASHINGTON (AP) – Nothing about the Supreme Court — not its magnificent building atop Capitol Hill nor its very title — suggests that its word is anything other than final. Yet federal appellate judges and even state court judges sometimes find ways to insist on an outcome the Supreme Court has rejected.

The U.S. Supreme Court, which convenes here in Washington, doesn't always have the last word.

Just last week, the justices rebuked judges on the federal appeals court in San Francisco in the tragic case of a Los Angeles-area grandmother who was convicted of shaking her 7-week-old grandson to death. The appeals court overturned the conviction three times and twice, the justices ordered the appellate judges to try again. The third time around, the justices ended the case, pointedly upholding the conviction.

"Each time, the panel persisted in its course, reinstating its judgment without seriously confronting the significance of the cases called to its attention," the high court said in an unsigned opinion. "Its refusal to do so necessitates this court's action today."

But the nation's court of last resort does not always get the last word.
The appeals court in Washington where four Supreme Court justices trained, the Oregon Supreme Court, and occasionally even the San Francisco-based federal appeals court given its come-uppance last week, have in recent years won battles with the justices. The lower court judges have managed to limit the rights of terrorism suspects detained at Guantanamo, uphold awards of large punitive damages against companies and rule in favor of criminal defendants, despite the Supreme Court's disapproval.
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 05:57 pm
@jcboy,
Interesting.
Has either the executive or legislative branch ever overturned a Supreme Court decision without constitutional revision?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jun, 2015 08:30 pm
Supreme Courts overturn each other all the time. You can google it and Im sure someone like Wikipedia will even give the case names.

Remember Roe v Wade is a target for an overturning by a Conservative court.

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The Constitution can also overturn itself by subsequent amendment
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Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2015 03:42 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Rickoshay75 wrote:
Why doesn't Obama and congress take them on, exercise their own power to okay or veto all supreme court decisions?
It doesn't work that way.


Not now, but congress and Obama can take back their power anytime they want to. Two pillars of power against one.
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2015 04:18 pm
@Rickoshay75,
Rickoshay75 wrote:
. . . congress and Obama can take back their power anytime they want to. Two pillars of power against one.
That would take a costitutional ammendment, not nearly as easy to accomplish as it is to mouth the words. It would override 200+ years of constitutional phiilosophy.
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