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Sweetening your coffee

 
 
Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 02:25 pm
Amongst some 300,000 potential a2k participants might one or two oldsters benefit from the following most remarkable discovery

For decades into my empty cup I poured the honey first, then powdered milk. After adding the coffee, to ensure full dissolution of the honey I found it necessary to stir about 36 strokes

Then at 84 though under diminished capacity as I'm sure you will agree--possibly incipient Alz's--I discovered that by dispensing milk first, then carefully decanting honey in its middle, only a few strokes then required
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 02:27 pm
@dalehileman,
That's just brilliant! You will save yourself at least 30 strokes. Well done, Dale. Will you be increasing your exercise elsewhere to compensate?
dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 02:41 pm
@Butrflynet,
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Well done, Dale.
Why thank you But, it's not everyday

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Will you be increasing your exercise elsewhere to compensate?
By actual calculation, over the next six years I've been allowed, the time saved will yield time for 3 hours' additional yardwork
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 02:55 pm
@dalehileman,
I myself always enjoyed the sweet kindness of liquid cyclamate. Quickly it did dissolve, merging with the goodness of whatever it had been added to.


Then the lousy FDA decided it might kill us all and ripped it off the shelves.


My coffee for the most part however, I prefer to be black. Straight up, no add-ons.

Allergic to honey so that won't be an issue.


Glad you made the discovery, it will I am sure make things a little better and brighter hereon in.
contrex
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 02:56 pm
I have found after several decades of sweetening my coffee, that it tastes much better if I don't sweeten it at all, and also I can now detect the differences between types of bean and between cheap and premium coffee.
Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 03:13 pm
@Sturgis,
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a little better and brighter heroin ?
Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 03:14 pm
@Ragman,
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Sturgis (Post 5895657)
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a little better and brighter heroin ?

Laughing
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Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 03:26 pm
@contrex,
Oh if it were only true thatthat the taste of just plain coffee beans gives me pleasure. In some things I've champagne tastes with (barely) a beer budget.

The Beans
Gevalia (mail order): Kenya, med. roast. My neighbor's gift about every 6 weeks
Gevalia: Expresso Roast
Coffee Fool: (mail-order) Ecuadorian, light-med roast

Sweetner:
I can forego any sweetener now but it took awhile. During this last year I went from Raw (Turbinado) sugar, to raw honey...to plain black.

I think I make a darned good cup of coffee...for people that really like coffee.

roger
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 03:27 pm
@contrex,
Yep. I noticed long ago that adding sugar to coffee made it taste different. Not just being obviously sweeter, but different. I haven't tried honey and don't plan to.
Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 03:33 pm
@roger,
I don't recommend it to anyone who just wants their coffee sweeter. For those without allergy to honey, raw unfiltered honey's taste is far superior to reg honey. I dislike reg honey comparatively. Honeymakers pasteurize (heat) and filter and take some of the good flavor and trace nutrients away; however, it was an easy habit to break because of the cost factor.

Black coffee from freshly ground beans just before brewing is a bit of heaven.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 04:57 pm
@Sturgis,
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Straight up, no add-ons.
Big calorie advantge

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Allergic to honey so that won't be an issue.
You have my most sincere sympathies

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…...will I am sure make things a little better and brighter hereon in.
Thanks Stur, it's not everyday….
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 05:00 pm
@contrex,
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can now detect the differences between types of bean and between cheap and premium coffee
Tho they don't drink much coffee I envy my two sons' most exquisite palate, their ability to distinguish various beer flavors
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 05:02 pm
@Sturgis,
Depends on the quality of the coffee for me, and my coffee purchases are on the cheapo side these days. I used to drink the good stuff black, now I add something like 1/2 teaspoon of sugar and that will take refilling/topping off. Takes the edge off of miserable coffee.

Being a Lipton's tea child (no milk), I was late, as a teen, to learn to drink coffee, since all my elders or peers wanted me to add some kind of milk to it. Yetch. It turned out to be the milk I didn't like. I was one of those kids who had to sit at the table until I finished my milk. My mother nearly force fed me really icky calcium discs... (poor me).
I didn't learn to easily drink a glass of white milk until they came out with skim, whatever that year was. I finally learned to drink coffee black at the hospital I worked at after school classes - I saw other people doing that.

Years have gone by and I have changed. Yetch to skim milk, fat is needed for vitamin D absorption. Plus, I'm not chubby anymore and some fat on the body is a good protectant. We all have our nutritional views, these are some of mine.

I got used to caffe lattes in italy and am predictably ms. picky about my lattes - doppio and no damned milk foam on top of the milk, please, and no sugar at all. I'm fine with the bit of brown foam that comes with a correctly served espresso, and the dribbles of foam on a macchiato, a mere breath. Oh, and I'll add some sugar to straight espresso. Not like some italians. I remember going to a famously good coffee bar in Rome and they put the sugar in for me (yaaaack! four spoonfuls fast!). I learned how to control that, politely. Plus, that was only that one place.

I've also turned to almond milk or coconut milk, though I will still buy half and half, to have around if I want to make gelato, or my faux Alfredo sauce.

On stirring, it is my opinion from my own non-double blind testing efforts that baking cocoa powder stirs more easily into a little water first and then almond milk than doing the same with cow milk - this being for smoothies, not coffee related,
This could be fantasy.

One more thing, maybe from that first italy trip or maybe not - it might have also related to my reading - I got used to eating way less sugar than I had before that. Came home to find bakery goods, etc., all too sweet back in Los Angeles.

Stay tuned for "As The Coffee Mug Fills".

dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 05:05 pm
@Ragman,
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I think I make a darned good cup of coffee...for people that really like coffee
Congrats on superior palate

I wish I could distinguish brews like your facility with the bean
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 05:07 pm
@roger,
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I haven't tried honey and don't plan to
Myself Rag, I like it tho I don't have the educated palate of some
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 05:16 pm
@Ragman,
Ragman wrote:

I don't recommend it to anyone who just wants their coffee sweeter. For those without allergy to honey, raw unfiltered honey's taste is far superior to reg honey. I dislike reg honey comparatively. Honeymakers pasteurize (heat) and filter and take some of the good flavor and trace nutrients away; however, it was an easy habit to break because of the cost factor.

Black coffee from freshly ground beans just before brewing is a bit of heaven.



Wonder if using agave syrup would have a different result. It takes a lot less of it to achieve the same level of sweetness.

ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 05:22 pm
@Butrflynet,
I bought some raw honey at Costco, get on years ago but it was a fairly big bottle. Like it, still have some of it, use it sparingly when I make my batches of granola. Not that I make granola often, but when I do, I sometimes use a little of that honey. The granola recipes out there on the internet are miles too sweet for me, usually doesn't need any.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 25 Feb, 2015 05:57 pm
One more comment - My estonian american friend gave me a present something like thirty years ago of a pound of Gevalia coffee and two Gevalia cups.
The coffee didn't knock me over then, but it certainly wasn't bad. I broke one of the cups after, oh, twenty years, and broke the second one fairly recently.

I've thought of starting a coffee mug thread; I still might do that... not so much for funny ones but those we are sentimental about (also, possibly funny).
Ragman
 
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Reply Thu 26 Feb, 2015 11:28 am
@Butrflynet,
Oops..I missed that one. That, too, was one of the better phases of sweetening. I liked agave nectar/syrup and it tastes just fine in a small dosage..about 1/2 tsp in a 10-oz cup of cawffee. I tried real 100% maple syrup (dark amber). No amount tasted right to me. Fast fwd on that one.

I was given a gift of a French press pot. I have used this press pot on occasion...heating the water in a pan just off a rolling boil. It uses a screen mesh (no filter). The taste is a bit above the drip coffee maker....releasing those subtle flavors of the bean. It's a little both of a bother prep-wise...but it sure solves some taste problems added by drip coffeemakers.

One of the personal experiences that kind of shocked me...is that certain (by no means all) of the premium coffees are less acidic (with plenty of depth/aroma) and have less irritation to my stomach. It's theorized that there's less pollution or chemicals that yield gastro irritation problems. So far, Gevalia leads the pack for me in this category. FWIW I grind all beans just before brewing.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 26 Feb, 2015 11:36 am
@ossobuco,
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...my opinion from my own non-double blind testing efforts that baking cocoa powder stirs more easily into a little water first...
Thanks Oss, I'm continually amazed by the depth of experience exhibited by many an a2k

Incidentally speaking of prep time, because the typical honey dispenser is so slow, esp in the wintertime, try the wide-mouth jar that will accommodate a teaspoon
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