School shooting in my old home town

recidivistic violent criminals are BANISHED
from the North American Continent

It's not the same thing at all. Drugs are very different from firearms.

Our laws have stopped school shootings, not since Dunblane, whereas it seems like a regular incidence in your country. The facts support it, and a mandatory 5 years in prison just for possessing an illegal firearm means most criminals don't think it's worth the risk. Anyway criminals don't tend to go on shooting rampages, sad loners tend to do that.

Your idea of victims killing predators is a pipe dream, it hardly ever happens,

you can quote a few isolated examples if you want,

but people with guns are far more likely to shoot family members
by mistake than an assailant.

You live in a society where school shootings seem to happen at least once or twice a year if not more, it's a society you helped to create. And it's not going to go away. This will happen again. If you introduce more guns it will happen even more frequently.

izzythepush wrote:

but people with guns are far more likely to shoot family members by mistake than an assailant.

I 'm sure that is not true.

That South African shud have been convicted of malicious murder.

We've got down this road many times,
and you've got plenty of rhetoric.

The facts say otherwise.

The only reason you're all so paranoid about the need to defend yourselves
is because your country is awash with guns.

You live in a society where school shootings seem to happen at least
once or twice a year if not more, it's a society you helped to create.

And it's not going to go away. This will happen again.

If you introduce more guns it will happen even more frequently.

I may be wrong, but most mass shootings aren't carried about by recidivist criminals but by people usually not known to police with legally held weapons.

even though our large schools don't get shot up. Why do you think that is?

Last year, 250 students were caught with weapons in school, and a further 550 were permanently excluded for physical attacks on staff. A rise in knife crime by British teenagers has already resulted in police being based in a selection of secondary schools, and the use of metal detectors, security gates, and CCTV cameras have risen sharply since Mr Lawrence’s murder in 1995. However, with school perimeters being remarkably difficult to patrol 100% of the time, many believe that one teacher being stabbed to death in her classroom will turn out to be the tip of a frighteningly large iceberg.
Read more at http://guardianlv.com/2014/04/teacher-stabbed-to-death-in-classroom-at-uk-school/#M9P8leqCawXGq03K.99

No no no, the question you are supposed to be asking is which one is more likely to have a bullet related death. See this way after the anti gun people throw in all of the suicides and dead bad guys they can push around a slightly impressive number and argue that guns are bad. Helping people leave who want to leave and maintaining law and order are presumably not worth talking about.

To assist them you need to get rid of guns. That's the only thing that will assist them. At the moment you're advocating making matters a lot worse.

Hong Kong (CNN) -- The new school year in China began Monday with a horrifying attack.
A man stabbed to death three children at a primary school in central China and then committed suicide by jumping off a building, state media reported.
The attacker, identified by his surname Chen, broke into Dongfang Primary School in Hubei province around 10:20 a.m., Xinhua news agency said, citing the local government.
Wielding a knife, the man stabbed eight students and a teacher before he took his own life, the report said.
Three of the students died, and the six other victims have been hospitalized, Xinhua reported. Two of the students are seriously hurt, it said.
An initial investigation suggested that the attacker bore a grudge that his daughter was not allowed to attend the school after failing to complete a summer homework assignment, according to Xinhua.
Monday was the first day back at school after the summer vacation for most students in China.
The report said police are investigating the case.
The attack happened in Yunxi county, in the administrative region of Shiyan city.
A member of staff at the local education authority who answered a call from CNN said the only information available was in Xinhua's report. Police in Shiyan didn't answer repeated phone calls.
Xinhua said it wasn't immediately clear how the man got into the school campus.
China suffered a spate of knife and cleaver attacks targeting school children in 2010.
A number of measures were introduced at the time, including increased security at schools across the country and a regulation requiring people to register with their national ID cards when buying large knives.
CNN's Serena Dong contributed to this report.