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What are the effects of Novocain?

 
 
luismtzzz
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2014 06:06 pm
@Linkat,
Well i will try to explain this on non medical terms.

The central nervous systems controls everything on our body, from our figers typing our ideas, to the simple act of breathing. Breathing as well as hearth beat are completely automatical. As well blood preassure, gut movement etc. Ths are controllesd by something called Auntonomous nervous system (ANS). The ANS regulates every aspect of our metabolism to keep everything working leaving the brain without worry. So it does not needs the brain to work (that is why when a person has brain death the hearth keeps beating).

ANS uses a dual system for control that coordinately work on opposites. Sympatic and Parasympatic systems. Example a bronchi stimulated by Sympatic system will dilate, but with parasympatic stimuli it will constrict. Sympatic nerves are scaterred and depend a lot of the periferal nervous system. While parasympatic system has his own particular nerve called Vagal nerve (that is way it is called also Vagal system)

On the blood pressure sympatic system increases pressure and the parasympatic system will lower pressure. When we suddenly stand up gravity pulls all the blood from our head and torso to the feet, but both our autonomic systems quickly react balancing the pressure one causing vasoconstriction and the other causin vasodilation. If the regulation doesn´t kicks in quickly we can feel a small vertigo or even fall unconscious.

The Vasovvagal reaction is a malfunction of this regulation system. The parasympatic system overreacts to an specific trigger. It is not an allergic reaction, and it can happen once and never come back. The dilation of vascular vessel can be so huge and fast to cause a syncope. Or slow and gradual to ressemble drowsiness.

It can be caused by pushing while being constipated, or by an inyection, or by the sight of blood.

So that is what i think that happened to you. Also to Romeo
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2014 06:45 pm
@luismtzzz,
Thank you for talking about that vagal nerve!

My 85 year old mother has had that happen to her about twice a month for about 10 years. She has been to the ER several times due to it and has had every test and scan known to the profession to check her heart, brain and chemistry. I keep telling all the doctors I think it is her vagal nerve and that I think it only happens when her bowels are a certain consistency and are moving over a certain spot in her body. Almost consistently, immediately before or after the episode she has a bowel movement. No one ever gave it much credence.

After describing, video taping and taking photos for the doctor when it happens, a couple months ago she finally had an episode in her doctor's office right in front of her doctor. It was proof of what I've been saying all these years. The "flutters" as we call them, come on suddenly and without warning while she is sitting in her recliner, last about 5 minutes and often repeat 7 to 10 times during the day. She gets very weak, her blood pressure drops, she hyperventilates, her skin turns grayish and clammy and she has trouble speaking and it comes out as gibberish, almost as if she were having a stroke. She never actually passes out, but comes close to it. Ten minutes later, she is heading to the bathroom and is fine after that. Brain MRIs don't show any evidence of stroke. Thankfully, it convinced her doctor to fill out the forms to cancel mom's drivers license since she refused to stop on her own.

Very odd, that vagal nerve. We don't hear much about it yet it plays such an important role in the body functions.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2014 08:00 pm
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Luismtzzz said:I had always tought that England has a fisrt world medical service system, that makes other first world countries feel jealous.

Nah mate, the only good thing about the NHS (National Health Service) is that you get totally free treatment, but it's often sloppy, inefficient and disorganised, there's not a family in the land who hasn't experienced at least one botchup.

THE TELEGRAPH
The NHS is fatally unsafe – and our politicians are doing nothing to change that
By Sean Worth 31 May 2013
The latest reports that hospitals become fatally unsafe at weekends, when top doctors go AWOL, follows admissions that many A&E units are treacherously overloaded. The head of the NHS, Sir David Nicholson, has resigned. We have seen the patient deaths scandal unfold at Stafford Hospital, while 14 other hospitals are now under investigation for suspicious death rates. Many others are crippled by poor care standards and rising debt. It looks like an outright crisis.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10090193/The-NHS-is-fatally-unsafe-and-our-politicians-are-doing-nothing-to-change-that.html
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2014 02:46 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
You're a real moany fascist, never happy. The NHS is brilliant, it even serves moochers like you.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2014 10:07 am
@Miller,
I'd say this guy was in the early 50s at most. And the relaxing feeling went away or at the very least decreased dramatically once I started moving. And he is a specialist in doing root canals.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2014 10:10 am
@luismtzzz,
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Vagal system


when you first mentioned this - I thought you were talking dirty

Laughing
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2014 10:19 am
@luismtzzz,
luismtzzz wrote:

When we suddenly stand up gravity pulls all the blood from our head and torso to the feet, but both our autonomic systems quickly react balancing the pressure one causing vasoconstriction and the other causin vasodilation. If the regulation doesn´t kicks in quickly we can feel a small vertigo or even fall unconscious.


my dad had a real batch of these reactions a couple of years ago - ended up in emergency so often I considered quitting my job and moving closer to my hometown
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