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"Stealing a Nation" - guess what country would do that.

 
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 04:24 pm
@Germlat,
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You come across as a hate monger.


That is really rich, Germy. I'm not one of those supporting the biggest terrorist group on the planet. I'm not making excuses for the equals of Hitler. I won't let my money provide pensions to war criminals.

You say you left all that behind. Not on your life. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. You're comfortable only because the fire isn't directed at you. Considering what you say you went thru one would think you'd have more compassion for those that are being brutalized by successive US governments.

Germany only had one Hitler. The USA has had continuous Hitlers since day one.
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 04:37 pm
@JTT,
Please reply to the rest of my previous content...that'll help me understand if you get what I'm saying...or are you simply in defensive mode? You said nothing of the millions of lives lost....almost as if it doesn't exist, simply because it's not your focus. I'm hoping you're better than that.
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 05:32 pm
@Germlat,
Have you watched the video, Germy?

Russia has done murderous things, as has ... .

If you want to do the research, I'll be with you all the way. But stop trying to make excuses for the worst bunch of war criminals and terrorists on the planet.
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 06:13 pm
@JTT,
Yes...I have...I'm always against injustices. I don't like blanket statements about an entire nation of people...I know better. Did you check out what I said about Gendercide?! Please do.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 06:28 pm
@Germlat,
You watched this genocide of the Chagos islanders, you say nothing at all about it, about how the USA is so incredibly hypocritical yet you expect us to believe that "I'm always against injustices"?

If this was one or two events, Germlat, or even ten or twenty, well that would be one thing. But the USA has been involved in genocide, rape, torture, slaughtering children, stealing people's wealth for its entire existence, with no letup.

Eisenhower dragged Germans out if their houses to witness Nazis extermination camps and rightfully so.

Who will drag Americans out of their homes to view events that are the equal of the Nazis?
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 06:32 pm


A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

By Steve Kangas





The following timeline describes just a few of the hundreds of atrocities and crimes committed by the CIA. (1)

CIA operations follow the same recurring script. First, American business interests abroad are threatened by a popular or democratically elected leader. The people support their leader because he intends to conduct land reform, strengthen unions, redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned industry, and regulate business to protect workers, consumers and the environment. So, on behalf of American business, and often with their help, the CIA mobilizes the opposition. First it identifies right-wing groups within the country (usually the military), and offers them a deal: "We'll put you in power if you maintain a favorable business climate for us." The Agency then hires, trains and works with them to overthrow the existing government (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the book: propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion, blackmail, sexual intrigue, false stories about opponents in the local media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, death squads and even assassination. These efforts culminate in a military coup, which installs a right-wing dictator. The CIA trains the dictator’s security apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be "communists," but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses follow.

This scenario has been repeated so many times that the CIA actually teaches it in a special school, the notorious "School of the Americas." (It opened in Panama but later moved to Fort Benning, Georgia.) Critics have nicknamed it the "School of the Dictators" and "School of the Assassins." Here, the CIA trains Latin American military officers how to conduct coups, including the use of interrogation, torture and murder.

The Association for Responsible Dissent estimates that by 1987, 6 million people had died as a result of CIA covert operations. (2) Former State Department official William Blum correctly calls this an "American Holocaust."

The CIA justifies these actions as part of its war against communism. But most coups do not involve a communist threat. Unlucky nations are targeted for a wide variety of reasons: not only threats to American business interests abroad, but also liberal or even moderate social reforms, political instability, the unwillingness of a leader to carry out Washington’s dictates, and declarations of neutrality in the Cold War. Indeed, nothing has infuriated CIA Directors quite like a nation’s desire to stay out of the Cold War.

The ironic thing about all this intervention is that it frequently fails to achieve American objectives. Often the newly installed dictator grows comfortable with the security apparatus the CIA has built for him. He becomes an expert at running a police state. And because the dictator knows he cannot be overthrown, he becomes independent and defiant of Washington's will. The CIA then finds it cannot overthrow him, because the police and military are under the dictator's control, afraid to cooperate with American spies for fear of torture and execution. The only two options for the U.S at this point are impotence or war. Examples of this "boomerang effect" include the Shah of Iran, General Noriega and Saddam Hussein. The boomerang effect also explains why the CIA has proven highly successful at overthrowing democracies, but a wretched failure at overthrowing dictatorships.

The following timeline should confirm that the CIA as we know it should be abolished and replaced by a true information-gathering and analysis organization. The CIA cannot be reformed — it is institutionally and culturally corrupt.

SEE THE TIMELINE AT,

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 06:36 pm
@Germlat,
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Did you check out what I said about Gendercide?! Please do.


You'll have to do that, Germlat, and feel free to post it here.
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 06:38 pm
@JTT,
Why? It's common knowledge. Do what you want. It's not an obscure fact.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 06:42 pm
@Germlat,
Have you ever wondered how the bad things about everyone else in the world is common knowledge but the war crimes and terrorism of the USA, nada, zilch, nothing?

Strange don't you think considering that the USA is the world leader in doing bad/evil.
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 06:47 pm
@Germlat,
The USA commits this major genocide against the people of the Chagos islands, moves them out of their lands, puts them in abject poverty, then brings in thousands of workers from the Philippines to act as slaves to USA military personnel at camp "Justice".

IRONIC much?
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 06:49 pm
@Germlat,
But it must be noted, Germlat, that save for a few honest folk, you are much braver than hundreds of USians and their hangers on.
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