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Because I'm God

 
 
RexRed
 
Reply Mon 31 Dec, 2012 07:20 pm
Why are some people good?

It is because God made them that way? Would that not violate the free will of those who behave badly, that they in turn were born with a propensity for aggression and violence?

The New Testament seems to be the source of the current social psyche into thinking that we owe God something. For God so loved the world that he gave... and because he gave that behooves us to be good.

Because God was so nice to us and humbled himself into human form, bled, tortured, tormented by humanity and nailed to a cross of our collective sins we owe at least the consideration of trying to walk the straight and narrow way... Is this a trick question?

Are people born good? Is goodness more science than faith?

Even good people can behave badly so is good less a perceived duty to God and more a set of self adopted standards that are subjected upon individuals by teachers and external stimuli? Is good learned and what are the boundaries and limitations of that idea?

Is good a spiritual reality somehow born within some individuals who reach enlightenment? Is good simply the luck of the draw, unforeseen circumstances irk someone so badly that they simply flip out and go on a rampage.

Should we all lay down our lives without question for any malady that presents itself to us in pure pacifism?

Are we good because God is?
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 31 Dec, 2012 08:03 pm
@RexRed,
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Because God was so nice to us and humbled himself into human form, bled, tortured, tormented by humanity and nailed to a cross of our collective sins


Just to make up for the collective sins of the USA, he would have to keep doing repetitive crucifixions, not even waiting 'til the third day to give it another go. He'd need to spawn twins, triplets, maybe even octuplets to keep up with the sins.
nothingtodo
 
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Reply Mon 31 Dec, 2012 08:04 pm
@RexRed,
What in the world makes you think that God is 'good'?
Perhaps that your meager transgressions slip below his radar?
Or that he ignores the worst ones?

To be born under God is to be born with a certain amount of pre-assigned measure of motive. Being born with a propensity for aggression and violence is at worst a single figure percentage of difference throughout those areas.
Noticing that it happens a lot is the problem which heightens it's seeming endlessness.

The same as your bad day.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 31 Dec, 2012 08:19 pm
@RexRed,
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Why are some people good?
Partly circumstance, partly determination, partly expectancy, partly fear; books have been writ………

….and partly Rex what you mean by "good". Have I ever described in your presence what otherwise "good" Christians do to Porky

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It is because God made them that way?
Not to a large extent; mostly we're the result of cause and effect: God in action; the World being her Body so to speak and all the activity Her thinking

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Would that not violate the free will of those who behave badly, that they in turn were born with a propensity for aggression and violence?


So it might seem

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The New Testament seems to be the source of the current social psyche into thinking that we owe God something.
Another book in the works

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For God so loved the world that he gave... and because he gave that behooves us to be good.
Tit for tat

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Because God was so nice to us…..we owe at least the consideration of trying to walk the straight and narrow way... Is this a trick question?
Which q where

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Are people born good?
See first para

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Is goodness more science than faith?
Sorry but Goodness is neither a science nor a faith

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…...so is good less a perceived duty to God and more a set of self adopted standards that are subjected upon individuals……...
Depends of course upon whom you ask but I think the latter predominates

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Is good learned and what are the boundaries and limitations of that idea?
Isn't almost any concept or behavior learned, the boundaries and limitations set by such factors as chance, reason, propensity, physiology, etc etc; still another book


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Because I'm God
Yes, in a way, just as the rest of us. One might say we're cells in Her brain
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 31 Dec, 2012 08:33 pm
@nothingtodo,
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What in the world makes you think that God is 'good'?
Well, She is. She's bad too. She's All

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Perhaps that your meager transgressions slip below his radar?
Tho it doesn't work every time, She does have subtle ways of retribution

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Or that he ignores the worst ones?
So it would appear in many instances. But eventually She gets Her way--usually

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To be born under God is to be born with a certain amount of pre-assigned measure of motive.
…though subsequently it often gets pretty well chopped up through c and a

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Being born with a propensity for aggression and violence is at worst a single figure percentage of difference throughout those areas.
Maybe fraction of one percent


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Noticing that it happens a lot is the problem which heightens it's seeming endlessness.
Interesting observation, seemingly hopeless
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2013 05:16 am
King James Bible
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

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What better good can a person do for another but to lay down their life for them? We call these people heroes.

God is either manipulated or rightly so placed somewhere within this mix and the same mechanisms that cause people to adore their heroes and call them angels and saints they also apply to the concept of God.

The God becomes so VERY good, people are shamed into at least trying to do the same.

Does God only do good or does God always do the best? There is room to argue. For words come in levels and layers of subtle spritely alluring innuendo with devious intent.

I am not really commenting on whether this whole "Good God" idea is sound or true. I am just pointing out the thought process and the architecture, design and shape of its form.

If one builds their reason of being good on a magnified idea of a deity and this deity's said "extreme goodness", you would think that would alter this individual is some predictable way. They will in turn have to fulfill this idea in some meaningful expression. This is the doorway to fundamentalism and radicalism.

Radicalism is born out of the "because I'm God" syndrome. By perceiving God's love we become God's love. Thus our love becomes even more vulnerable and our hearts more breakable... Actions speak louder than words.

In this heightened state of being it might seem that humans actually become LESS rational. One might be inclined and predisposed to respond to a situation by a blind subservience of the will over reason and "science"...

One might ask, is it hate that makes people do bad things or is it love?
djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2013 05:23 am
nothingtodo
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2013 05:32 am
@RexRed,
Yet you know zero of your ancestors, or emotional reasoning around centered argument for laying down life.
Centuries ago they systemised the vast majority of birthing people for those purposes under the pentagram, God himself oversaw.

It did away with most of the confusing arguments, still however, they do build right people, then much like the nature of abuse, they assign them the label 'synthetic', as though to be birthed as a tool alone, is to be non-human.. They eventually adapt to accept such notions through the pain and torment of this thing, which is living.

They had to reassign the task across to the other team often since interest became too much.

A loving God is for your frequency match, human, you are not synthetic because you are not entirely abused. God therefore loves you, but this is by the Earthly concept of calm.. Not by way of favoritism, because of who you may be.

The King James bible is correct in the context applied, but not for eternity.
Man lays down his life, if numerical termination and sometimes pain requires it.. Being human then, has little to do with the choice.
One must be careful to not lay down ones life for those lives which are doomed to failure.

No further comment.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2013 05:34 am
@djjd62,
Nice post, apropos, thanks for sharing. Smile
djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2013 05:36 am
@RexRed,
always been a particular fave of mine
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Kolyo
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2013 12:24 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Just to make up for the collective sins of the USA, he would have to keep doing repetitive crucifixions, not even waiting 'til the third day to give it another go. He'd need to spawn twins, triplets, maybe even octuplets to keep up with the sins.


Ever heard of the Appian Way? We're covered for another 30 years.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2013 12:39 pm
@Kolyo,
Do you think it's a good thing to make light of the immense suffering that the US has heaped, continues to heap upon poor people around the world, Kolyo?
Kolyo
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2013 12:48 pm
@JTT,
Yes, sardonic laughter is healthy.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2013 01:26 pm
@Kolyo,
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Yes, sardonic laughter is healthy.


Not when it is used to hide your unhealthy delusions.
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2013 01:28 pm
Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee6SdmmCN5Y
nothingtodo
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jan, 2013 01:15 am
@JTT,
Nice summary of the absolute issue.
They do leave out the conclusion though.

Less terror, more allowing aspects of culture to return in harmony, etc.
That enemies can strike tomorrow, means we must change them slightly today.. The notion itself if hard to swallow, so a harder approach is used to get the point across, it goes on too long, true, but it will succeed.

I myself have no issue with Islam.. No issue at all.. So I find that area hard to swallow as a forced warzone, next to Islam, many countries are a rabble... They will not be soon.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jan, 2013 04:45 am
What is our nature? Good, bad? Why does one have a bad nature and one a good nature? Who decided which nature to bestow upon the blessed and the unfortunate?

What exactly is nature that it can be dichotomous and divisive? A "natural" propensity of an individual to move towards corruption or good. The idea that people become either more good or more corrupt over time.

There are ethically sound arguments as to what constitutes most good and bad. So we can say the arguments are rights, freedoms, liberties, equality, justice etc... (they are good)

Vague sometimes but seemingly on the side of good. Yet these are intellectual ideals. They suppose the mind controls the will.

What if the will were possessed by another mind or "a spirit"? And how would one confront such a thing? Physically, spiritually, with hostility, with humility... disbelief... holy water... Latin?

What exactly is it that guides our own minds?

How can we judge the choices of a homeless person over that of a wealthy person?

By their contribution to society and how do we judge that? Both the wealthy and the homeless feed off of society.

So the devil made you do it or you do it because God made you do it?

Both come with an array of superstitious pitfalls and both require sacrifice of the will to a higher authority. Does God make people gamble? Do you win at sports because God made you win? Is God on your team? Whose side is God on?

Does this team have a certain common mindset? What is it that you must do to be able to join this team? Are you qualified and worthy to be on God's team?

Mind control.
nothingtodo
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jan, 2013 05:01 am
@RexRed,
A lot of the answers are too upsetting for you, clearly, but yes.. To ensure world peace, God allows Satan to cheat, even helps.
I really do not wish to use these old terms, but it speeds up the whole process.
Confront such notions with scientific or religious calm, it is the only way to escape, if escape is possible.
Philosophy is only good if repeating a value suitable to calms acquisition.

People are billions, choosing happens across all spectrum's in all directions, beauty is spared by default quite often, but not for an entire life, rarely do they take it to extremes though, when they do it is incredibly painful or too much the fantasy to be true, forever.
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jan, 2013 05:06 am
@nothingtodo,
nothingtodo wrote:

A lot of the answers are too upsetting for you, clearly, but yes.. To ensure world peace, God allows Satan to cheat, even helps.

I really do not wish to use these old terms, but it speeds up the whole process.

Who cheats first, God or Satan?
nothingtodo
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jan, 2013 05:09 am
@RexRed,
It was logical to tell man that Satan was an enemy, since man could only see enemies.

Starts, ends, highs and lows are irrelevant.
 

 
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