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Logic the only Absolute-

 
 
nameless
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2012 11:04 pm
@Brabke,
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The absolute proof of 'god' or the evidence for the Absolute:
The eternal laws of logic, mathematics and others are the only things that can be called absolute and transcendent;

Sorry, but quantum mechanics has shown all of Aristotle's so called 'laws' to be obsolete! Far from Universal, anyway!
There is not anything especially 'eternal' about 'thoughts' (or anything else); we perceive guitars and music and the moon and thoughts....
Your error does not constitute "absolute proof of 'god'", a vain quest and clain at best.


therefore,

~~~ Conclusions drawn from erroneous assumptions are less than reliable.


consciousness or idea

~~~ Consciousness is not an 'idea'/thought!
Consciousness perceives that which Is, in this case, an 'idea' = 'thought'. You do not create or store 'thoughts', you perceive That Which Is.
'Thoughts/ideas' are particular features/Perspectives of 'That Which Is, the One Reality.

"There are no whole truths: all truths are half-truths. It is trying to treat them as whole truths that plays the devil." - Alfred North Whitehead

"All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense." -Robert Anton Wilson

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Brabke
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2012 03:52 am
-Only the logical, mathematical and other eternal laws can be proven and his bright ideas.
-Even the idea of ​​"god" or the existence of the 'things' themselves can only be known and fantasies as apparent as experienced.
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north
 
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Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2012 02:24 pm

The thing is though is that logic is based on Reason and if the Reasoning is wrong then so is the is following logic
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imans
 
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Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2012 07:01 pm
that is an aspect of how only truth exist

u cant deal with logics without meanin true logics or logics in truth

u cant deal with reasons but reasons in truth or true reasons

and this for anything else

only truth existence allow to see a reality of many different things being in truth ways

that is how when truth is ignored to take advantage of, only lies are possible existence shapes reasons, while lies proved cant stay constant
so always end by increasin murders and crimes to also avoid lies to make and force reasons to b of what cant have any reason since down killed

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nameless
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2017 08:20 pm
@Brabke,
Brabke wrote:


The absolute proof of 'god' or the evidence for the Absolute:

The eternal laws of logic, mathematics and others are the only things that can be called absolute and transcendent;
therefore, all the rest, that is, there are evolved. So God is nothing else than absolute ‘logos’, the absolute consciousness or idea, from which all proceeds, and further us not be known.


Logic is far from 'absolute'.
QM has eviscerated every one of Aristotle's 'laws' of logic!

A = A AND A =/=A AND A sometimes = A... all at the same moment!

"All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense." -Robert Anton Wilson

"For every Perspective, there is an equal and opposite Perspective!" - The First Law of Soul Dynamics
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2017 12:55 pm
@nameless,
nameless wrote:

"All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense." -Robert Anton Wilson

Tx, that's a keeper.
nameless
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2017 07:11 pm
@Olivier5,
You're welcome!
There'll never be another Bob Wilson! *__-
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Nov, 2017 02:46 am
@nameless,
Never heard the name. Who was he?
nameless
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2017 08:35 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Never heard the name. Who was he?

What a joy to be able to share him with you;
Robert Anton Wilson

There is much to find with a good search! Have fun!
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2017 06:16 am
@Brabke,
Do you realise Logos is not free right? All actions, processing are necessary!

Post Scriptum - After reading back the thread it seems this is your position so nevermind. Feel free to dissent in case I miss something on the quick bactracking I did of the thread.
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