@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:This is just the Tories puffing and blowing,
and making up problems that don't actually exist.
Most of what he's announced already exists in law.
Congratulations. I thawt it was worse,
more dangerous in England for innocent victims of burglary.
izzythepush wrote:As for Tony Martin it wouldn't make any difference,
as Martin shot someone in the back who was running away.
Is that
undisputed, Izzy??
Does everyone agree about that ?
izzythepush wrote:They made similar pronouncements about teachers
not being able to restrain pupils who were fighting,
which was also wrong.
I don't understand.
That seems like confused thinking.
No one shud be shot for fighting.
To my mind, that does not make sense.
I know of no one who has taken a contrary position.
(This is
not to
deny that the victim of a criminal assault
[e.g., George Zimmerman, in Florida] is perfectly within
his rights to defend himself from criminal violence.)
izzythepush wrote:This is typical of the Tories, all mouth and trousers.
I am perplexed.
Politicians r expected to operate their mouths,
in the exercize of their responsibilities.
I fail to discern the significance of their clothing.
I 'm sure that u had a good concept there,
but I don't know what it was.
izzythepush wrote:See below for what happened prior to Smeagol's
(sorry Grayling's announcement.)
With all respect,
candor moves me to confess
that I do not recognize all of the cited names.
Quote:A 59-year-old man arrested on suspicion of murder following a burglary at his home has been released without charge after it was deemed he had used reasonable force after being confronted by four masked men.
Peter Flanagan, 59, was detained after the death of John Bennell, 27, who died from a stab wound to the chest after a number of masked men, one of whom was armed with a machete, broke into Flanagan's home. He had been due to answer police bail on Monday.
Nazir Afzal, the chief crown prosecutor for the north-west, said: "I have today told the police of my decision that Peter Flanagan should not face any charges in connection with the death of John Bennell, an intruder who broke into his home in Salford on 22 June.
"I am satisfied that Peter Flanagan acted in self-defence after being woken by noises downstairs in his house shortly before midnight. On investigating the disturbance he was confronted by intruders, one of whom was armed with a machete.
"In a case such as this I have to ask myself whether the use of force was necessary and whether it was reasonable in the circumstances. People are entitled to use reasonable force in self-defence to defend themselves, their family and their property."
Permit me to offer the following observation:
if innocent victims be so unfortunate as to have violent predators
(human or not) fall upon them in malice, it behooves them to fight for their lives
with as much energy, dedication and lethal skill as is likely to effect their survival
of the event,
NOT to be calculating and reflecting upon their optimal forensic strategy
in defense of anticipated criminal litigation in the heat &
blood of the moment.
Self preservation can be
IMPORTANT.