Anne Rice??? what???

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Okay Portal... I read about 15 minutes at the top, then skimmed down some to the "eye" part... I'm afraid I didn't "get" most of it... but from the parts I DID "get" I'm glad that I don't "get" the rest. lol

See, I like Poppy precisely because she never sugarcoats anything. She also allows the reader to get into the story without the pretentious author voice interfering. Swamp Foetus (re-titled "wormwood" due to fidgety prudes in polyester who were offended by the title) is a great intro duction to her work (and I love Dan Simmons' intro). Her "Crow" book is one of the best in the series, although Dan O'Bannon's runs a close second.

Missing Mile NC's honorary mayor.

Funny you should mention Dan Simmons, Bob. A first edition of his "Carrion Comfort" proved so hard to locate; when I did find them I purchased a British copy AND a signed American copy. I believe my heirs will be very appreciative. Have you read it?

After that disgusting display of commercialism, I hate to admit that I have. I liked "Children of the Night" and "Summer of Night better.

I'm not impressed with Anne Rice. Apparently she lost a daughter long ago, and I'm thinking that is her reason for publishing such sick works (adult fairy tales).

There is a disease of the blood that shows up in two different forms, and the symptoms are very much like the characteristics of a 'vampire' and a 'warewolf'. Its quite comical to think that there is such a large underground culture based on the mutations of these ailments.

I read anne rice - I like it.

I read the beauty trilogy, I liked those also.

Although, when it comes to reading, if it's anything I can visualize (as long as its not bloody gory type stuff) I can pretty much get into the story.

In fact, soserene, i just submitted the beauty trilogy to the portal. woo hoo hahahahaha

Ann Rice is a brilliant read for me....very much a part of the vampire/gothic culture she is writing about is centred around beauty, architecture and the underlying feelings, troubles of the characters etc. Surely she must be credited for at least this - stirring up emotions, beautifully describing a world which, good or bad, you can get lost in, and describing the location so well you feel you are looking down on the whole place and the people in it, understanding why and who are there. I like them purely for this, the 'horror' part is purely an extra!

Just a quick comment : I have only read a few of the vampire chronicles so I really can't comment on the other works you deem sick, which they may well be...I will have to have a read...

Any book of hers you can recommend to give me a better idea of how bad she can be? I've only ever heard good things about her so now I am intruiged.

Sleeping Beauty: The Erotic Trilogy...

I can send you some excerpts via pm if you want.... You won't find it in the library I doubt, and I would hate for you to waste your money on it if it's not for you.

I have seen it in the Seattle, Baltimore (Pratt). and Denver Public Libraries.
Soserene, befroe you dismiss it out of hand, perhaps you should expeiment with bondage and submission. It can be quite exhilerating.

*blushes* just 'tween us bob... that.. uh.. how do I say it... that isn't the part that I really had issues with... everyone's got a lil freak in em hehe. What I found disappointing was.. First of all, I'd heard about what an excellent author she was. I'd never read anything of hers before. If she wants to write porn.. that's great too! But.... her vocabulary (in this particular set, anyway) was horrible!! It is by no means soft core, so I don't understand why "nether mouth" is the only word she uses besides the general word "her sex" or "his sex"... It sounds like a sex ed teacher trying to write porn. Also, the entire second book is about a group of men... ALL men and ONLY men. in graphic detail... throw in a couple broomsticks for good measure... and there was also one chapter in there somewhere about how her "mistress" tied her to the table and put butter on her.. and then let the cats in there, if you know what I mean...

yes, give me whips and chains and rape scenes, hell even another woman, and I'll keep an open mind.. But there's just nothing even slightly appealing about graphic detail involving a man's butt and a broomstick!!

I read the first two books of that trilogy, nothing else by Rice ... A. likes her a lot.

I kinda got a kick outa that first one - some interesting stuff happens in it (heh). Intrigued / titillated me enough to overlook the kitschy goth-style of her writing. The one thing that turned me off was all the spanking, tho. Apparently, the whole spanking thing does nothing for me.

The second book (or perhaps it was the third I read?) was almost too weak to even get through. The writing is really bad, full of cliches. Plus the sub/dom stuff gets really repetitive, with kinda the same scenarios playing out ever again. And kinda too hardcore ... domination/submission is kinda a cool concept, but punishment/pain not really, at all ... for me. Gave me unhappy feelings.

But that first book ... yeh, it had some stuff that keeps the mind occupied at times ;-)

The only Rice books I really like are the Mayfair Witches books. I find her writing style to be pretentious, so on that subject I agree with you.
Then again, pretension tends to go hand in hand with the whole Goth schtick.

Hmm.. I tend to recall a certain scene with Mistress Lockley, Laurent, and Beauty ....

Well, we wont' go there Nimh. lol

Soserene - that would be cool...thanks...lets see what I think...!

Have you stop to think that those books were meant for adults and that the word "sex" is the sum of the structural, functional, and behavioral characteristics of living things that are involved in reproduction by two interacting parents. Plus, the terms she uses in the books are not vulgar at all.

And if you think that way about Rice, don't ever try Anaïs Nin, you'll die on the spot!

Huh? <shakes head>

I think Soserene's point in the bit you quote isn't that, oh my god, she's shocked and she would "die on the spot" if she'd read Nin -- just that Rice writes badly in this book. Cliched or unattractive vocabulary and all. I agree ... I mean, "nether mouth", just for the one example - that's just lame.

Now next time you wanna jump into some thread boots first trying to talk down to someone - think again, OK?

<walks off mumbling ... youth of nowadays ...>

Nimh - I'm not talking down to anybody, OK? Maybe if you try to explain how things really are instead of judging others opinions.

I'm expressing my opinion regarding what she said there. It sounds to me as if she jump into the books before making any research on Rice. And the vocabulary, would you rather her talking about the Birds and the Bees?
She might not be a great or a good writer to you but some people like her work, it's all about what you are looking for on a book. However, her books are all about sexual fantasies and desires with that person that is out of your reach. You can not just seat and read the book, you have to feel it, get yourself into what's going on or you will be just waisting your time because you will not understand the book.

Soserene - I'm sorry if you feel I was trying to jump in your case!
I use to think the same way ad my mother had me reading some books and writing some papers out of what I was able to gather from them, I was dump struck because I learn to read from a different point of view.

So, sorry if that was what came across.

Not a fan of Rice's, having read "Interview" and decided one of her novels was enough, but I did see an article in the NY Times today about her moving from her famous house in the New Orleans Garden District. I guess the house was quite a destination for her fans. Neighbors weren't too thrilled.

The article mentioned she would start her book tours at a shop in the area, and how once she showed up for a reading in a coffin. I guess she has some fun with her image, eh?