The engines we're not allowed to have

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Apparently at least one of the 70 - 80 mpg engines is made in the US but shipped outwards since we're not allowed to have it...

http://video.staged.com/localshops/vw_passat_785_mpg_in_the_uk

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/#/new/golf-vi/which-model/engines/overview/

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Apparently at least one of the 70 - 80 mpg engines is made in the US but shipped outwards since we're not allowed to have it...

http://video.staged.com/localshops/vw_passat_785_mpg_in_the_uk

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/#/new/golf-vi/which-model/engines/overview/

If this is TRUE,
then Y no stink in the press?????

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@OmSigDAVID,

with gunga, all things are conspiracies, up is down, hot is cold, and old is young.
Hes fun to futz with but I usually dont take his crap too seriously.

In every crowd there is one person who thinks everyone w=else is wrong and he is the only one possessing the truth. Gunga is our guy.

Trying things like "logic" have no impact on his mind.

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@OmSigDAVID,

One other thing I hear from a friend who buys and sells cars for a living is that the EPA mileage estimates for the VWs they do sell in the US are way off (low), and that owners he asks about mileage on the turbo diesels claim they're getting just over 50 but that it doesn't matter where or what kind of driving, city and highway mileage are nearly the same.

Another thing anybody who's lived long enough notices is that the small cars of today are much heavier than the small cars of 1950 - 1970; "weight" is a word you never read or hear any more in auto ads. Build a small car with modern materials instead of steel everywhere, and you'd most likely get weight back down to beetle-bug and Hillman/Singer levels even if you kept the airbags and ABS. At that point, a 1.6L engine such as the UK VW ad describes SHOULD get most of 100 mpg, if it didn't, something would be wrong.

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@gungasnake,

interestingly , there must be a cabal of these conspirators all over the world because no suoper efficlent engines are available anywhere.

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Apparently at least one of the 70 - 80 mpg engines is made in the US ...

Which one?

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Apparently at least one of the 70 - 80 mpg engines is made in the US but shipped outwards since we're not allowed to have it...

I sincerely doubt that any motor in any car by the Volkswagen group is imported (to the UK/Europe) from the US .... besides the four cylinder petrol motors for the T5 and the Caddy EcoFuel, which are produced in Mexico.

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@gungasnake,

I guess if the US used the British system we could get 80 mpg as well.

An imperial gallon is not the same as the US gallon. But then we can't expect gunga to know things like that.

By the way gunga, a kilometer is not the same as a mile and a litre is not the same as a quart.

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@Walter Hinteler,

The guy is claiming that those cars with those motors are shipped south, not to England or Europe.

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@parados,

http://geometroforum.com/topic/4788939/1/

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This model that supposedly gets 74 mpg gets 61 once you do all the math (imperial gallons), and probably 55 if you ran it through our MPG test. Plus, that's highway, probably more like 48 combined. The US version gets 35 in the US EPA test, but 60 using the numbers that they use over there. VW tried selling the 1.6 here, and it didn't sell, people wanted more power. The US government does not tell manufacturers what engines they may or may not sell (well, except GM, they own that one). They set the emissions and safety standards, set up a whole bunch of other roadblocks that cripple industry in general, but in the end, the manufacturers decide what combinations they will or will not sell, based upon cost, price, and demand. The US consumer simply does not want this car at the price VW would have to charge. If our gas was $10 a gallon as it is over in Europe, that might be a different story

As much as I despise Obama, he's got nothing to do with this one. We could have had the exact same conversation four years ago. In fact, I think we did.

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@parados,

Doesn't the UK version run on diesel, to boot?

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@DrewDad,

Yes, it does.

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@parados,

Hell, my 2001 Toyota Corolla averages about 35 MPG. (Most of my driving in it is highway, though, so it's a bit skewed.)

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

The guy is claiming that those cars with those motors are shipped south, not to England or Europe.

I was referring to your uk-link, which gives the data.

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@DrewDad,

DrewDad wrote:

Hell, my 2001 Toyota Corolla averages about 35 MPG. (Most of my driving in it is highway, though, so it's a bit skewed.)

Obviously Toyota is keeping you from getting 70-80 mpg and it's Obama's fault.

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@DrewDad,

DrewDad wrote:

Doesn't the UK version run on diesel, to boot?

The ony difference of the "UK version" to other Volkswagen group cars sold in Europe is ... the right-sided steering wheel (and some other minor left-side driving related stuff). Otherwise all the cars are the very same (including that there's no 'Jetta' 1998 - 'Jetta' is only used as name in the USA now).

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@gungasnake,

the vw turbo diesel is an incredibly delicate and high maintenance machine.

and I've never seen one get 50 mpg.

your friend is a loon.

go figure...

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@Rockhead,

My Opel/Vauxhall 2l turbo diesel makes (average) 40 mpg (US) [48 mpg UK] (7 years old, 175,000 miles) - new cars do better.

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@parados,

DrewDad wrote:

Hell, my 2001 Toyota Corolla averages about 35 MPG.
(Most of my driving in it is highway, though, so it's a bit skewed.)

parados wrote:

Obviously Toyota is keeping you from getting 70-80 mpg

I suspect that some of the Japs
r still peeved at us for 8/6/1945

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@DrewDad,

My '03 ford focus does 37 mpg on the highway. Minimum. It's noisy, and darn sure ain't no jackrabbit, but never less than 37, and that includes some long grades at the mountain passes.

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