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Arguments in favor of banning the Zoot Suit.

 
 
Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 08:13 pm
What would be some arguments in favor of banning the Zoot Suit. And (optional) what would be some arguments against the banning of the Zoot Suit.
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roger
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 08:21 pm
@evaelza888,
It went out of style before I was born. Can one ban a dead suit?
evaelza888
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 08:34 pm
@roger,
Well it is not a current issue. However, I would like some additional opinions on this topic.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 08:38 pm
@evaelza888,
wass kind zoot?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 08:42 pm
The most common allegation about the zoot suit was that young men who were not old enough at the end of the Second World War to go to war wore it to attract attention to themselves at a time when men in uniform got most of the attention of young women. It was also alleged that members of teen age gangs wore zoot suits. However, as the sumptuary laws of the middle ages showed, banning clothing styles is a waste of time.
roger
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 08:55 pm
@Setanta,
Pachucos?
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 08:57 pm
@roger,
Eggs-acktly . . . that was the alleged gang connection--after all, they were brown and Spanish-speaking, they must have been up to no good.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 10:18 pm
I wasn't sure what a zoot suit actually looked like, so Googled ...

Is this what we're talking about?

If so, why consider banning it?

I can't say I've seen too many men (or women) dressed like this recently ... or ever, really.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c197/Stanzerl/zoot_suit.jpg
roger
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 11:26 pm
@msolga,
That's roughly my mental picture. Notice the low hung pants and the extremely long coat.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2012 11:37 pm
@evaelza888,
evaelza888 wrote:
What would be some arguments in favor of banning the Zoot Suit. And (optional) what would be some arguments
against the banning of the Zoot Suit.
There is no jurisdiction to ban it.
Its still a free country.





David
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2012 04:49 am

i am not in favor of banning it...


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djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2012 05:00 am
not sure about a zoot suit, but, I wish I had a pencil thin mustache, the "Boston Blackie" kind, a two toned Ricky Ricardo jacket and an autographed picture of Andy Devine
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2012 05:16 am
@djjd62,
Well, its not autografed, but u can scroll thru this:
http://www.b-westerns.com/gunbelt9.htm





David
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2012 05:20 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Whoosh ! ! !
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2012 11:16 am
@evaelza888,
There is one particular a2k member, kobereal24, who overly fetishizes the Zoot Suit Riots from 1943:
http://able2know.org/user/kobereal24/
http://able2know.org/topic/182379-1

PM him with this request for information and I'll bet he'll give you a thousand page dissertation on why the Zoot Suit should be banned.
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2012 11:58 am
@OmSigDAVID,
That butt forward, cross-draw makes for a very fast draw - for the other guy.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2012 12:05 pm
I saw this play by Luis Valdez at the Mark Taper back in the late seventies. I remember liking it and James Olmos at the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoot_Suit_(play)

I like zoot suits much better than recently popular saggy pants.

well, the play link on wiki didn't post. To see it, go to wiki and check Valdez, Zoot Suit.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2012 12:17 pm
@ossobuco,
I dunno if I agree with the dissimilarity with the baggy pants. The zoot was cut with a very low crotch. Remember the Mexican actor called Continflas (or something like that)? He looked ready to trip over his britches when he wasn't cast for Around the World in 80 days.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2012 04:58 pm
@roger,
Yes, I do.
so goes it. (annoying movie even then)
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2012 05:03 pm
@roger,
I think recent has been baggier.
I'm no judge of tapes.
 

 
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