@biller,
Quote:Also what is nihilism I think when people say nihilism they mean different subjects such as existential or moral nihilism etc?
From either a denial of "life" in general having objective (or any) meaning to only denying select features of it (one can include epistemological nihilism, etc., as knowledge and the rest are a part of life). But since life is found in conjunction with consciousness or is part of the subjective/objective contents of experience and thought, it seems to require a degree of pretense or forgetfulness to contend that it lacks meaning or global meaning at all.
The "objective world" of outer perception is independent of one's own personal will (that subjective, personal half of the dichotomy), but not the properties and rules of consciousness/experience in general, as shared by humans. An environment that is presented with discriminated objects/events and their spatial relations, and is thought about and theorized about afterwards, is just that: A world of understanding, a world that is
understood -- if not in a wholly static or immutable manner. Thus it and the lives that are part of it can't avoid having meaning (this objective empirical exhibition even supports a story of itself, via brain science, of being a processed or conditioned product; it's not limited to being a conclusion of philosophical traditions anymore).
It's practical in some research fields and doctrines to treat the perceived external environment's apparent indifference to human interests and goals as teleological absence and absence of other brands of significance.
A "true" non-conscious circumstance which is supposed out of anti-panpsychic necessity/preference to be the cause of the objective world displayed and interpreted in consciousness (as well as one's individual subjectivity) does not even seem to garner complete insignificance, since -- after all -- it would also be yielding the aforementioned conditioned world with its interrelationships between things (i.e., it is significant in that regard). But a possible pure integration with or dissolving back into that non-conscious "stratum" is only before life and at death, which by virtue of being a "non-conscious" circumstance is a lack of evidence of everything as experience and reason (which of course would include "non-consciousness" lacking evidence for its own being, or evidence for this state of manifestation and understanding being absent).