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Muslim kill figues, Israel vs other muslims

 
 
Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2011 05:43 am
From the annual Sharp lecture at NYU, presented on November 18, 2009 by Dr. Gunnar Heinsohn,of the University of Bremen:

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IS INTERNATIONAL TERROR CAUSED BY THE CREATION OF ISRAEL?

“Terrorism will not be defeated without peace […] between Israel and Palestine. Here it is that the poison is incubated.”
(Tony BLAIR, 17 July 2003, to U.S. Congress.)

Tony Blair is no Mel Gibson or Osama Bin Laden. He is no mortal enemy of the Jews of Israel. Since, however, his assumption is so deeply ingrained in the mind of mankind one has to look for a method to test it? What does a body count indicate for the prominence of the conflict?

Conflicts 1949-2009 with at least 10,000 Fatalities.
Nations with Muslim majorities - all of them with youth bulges - in bold letters .
1 40,000,000 Red China, 1949-76 (outright killing, manmade famine, Gulag, Muslim Uighurs)
2 10,000,000 Late Stalinism, 1950-53; Post-Stalinism, to 1987 (mostly Gulag), more than 100.000 Muslims in Chechnya
3 5,800,000 Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa): 1967-68; 1977-78; 1992-95; 1998-today
4 4,000,000 Ethiopia, 1962-92: Communists, artificial hunger, genocides
5 2,800,000 Korean war, 1950-53
6 1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)
7 1,870,000 Cambodia: Khmer Rouge 1975-79; civil war 1978-91
8 1,800,000 Vietnam War, 1954-75 (more than 90% Vietnamese, Allies)
9 1,800,000 Afghanistan: Soviet and internecine killings, Taliban 1980-2001
10 1,250,000 West Pakistan massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh 1971)
11 1,100,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-today
12 1,100,000 Mozambique, 1964-70 (30,000) + after retreat of Portugal 1976-92
13 1,000,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88
14 900,000 Rwanda genocide, 1994
15 875,000 Algeria: war with France 1954-62 (675,000); Islamists/Government 1991-2006 (200,000)
16 850,000 Uganda, 1971-79; 1981-85; 1994-today
17 650,000 Indonesia: Marxists 1965-66 (450,000); East Timor, Papua, Aceh etc, 1969-today (200,000)
18 580,000 Angola: war against Portugal 1961-72 (80,000); after Portugal’s retreat (1972-2002)
19 500,000 Brazil against its Indians, up to 1999
20 430,000 Vietnam, after the war ended in 1975 (own people; boat refugees)
21 400,000 France in Indochina, 1945-54
22 400,000 Burundi, 1959-today (Tutsi/Hutu)
23 400,000 Somalia, 1991-today
24 400,000 North Korea up to 2006 (own people)
25 300,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1990s
26 300,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)
27 240,000 Columbia, 1946-58; 1964-today
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28 200,000 Yugoslavia, Tito regime, 1944-80
29 200,000 Guatemala, 1960-96
30 190,000 Laos, 1975-90
31 175,000 Serbia>Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, 1991-1999
32 150,000 Romania, 1949-99 (own people)
33 150,000 Liberia, 1989-97
34 140,000 Chechnya, 1994-today in independence war against Russia
35 150,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90
36 140,000 Kuwait War, 1990-91 (Arabs from Iraq and Kuwait, Allies)
37 130,000 Philippines: 1946-54 (10,000); 1972-today (Muslim Marxists, 120,000)
38 130,000 Burma/Myanmar, 1948-today
39 100,000 North Yemen, 1962-70
40 100,000 Sierra Leone, 1991-today
41 100,000 Albania, 1945-91 (own people)
42 80,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)
43 75,000 Iraq, 2003-today
44 75,000 El Salvador, 1975-92
45 70,000 Eritrea/Ethiopia, 1998-2000
46 68,000 Sri Lanka 1997-today
47 60,000 Zimbabwe, 1966-79; 1980-today
48 60,000 Nicaragua, 1972-91 (Marxists/natives etc,)
49 53,000 Arab-Israel wars, 1948-today (excluding the Israel-Palestine conflict; see 68)
50 50,000 Communist North Vietnam, 1954-75 (own people)
51 50,000 Tajikistan, 1992-96 (secularists against Islamists)
52 50,000 Equatorial Guinea, 1969-79
53 50,000 Peru, 1980-2000
54 50,000 Guinea, 1958-84
55 40,000 Chad, 1982-90
56 30,000 Bulgaria, 1948-89 (own people)
57 30,000 Rhodesia, 1972-79
58 30,000 Argentina, 1976-83 (own people)
59 27,000 Hungary, 1948-89 (own people)
60 26,000 Kashmir independence, 1989-today
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61 25,000 Jordan government vs. Palestinians, 1970-71 (Black September)
62 22,000 Poland, 1948-89 (own people)
63 20,000 Syria, 1982 (against Islamists in Hama)
64 20,000 Chinese-Vietnamese war, 1979
65 18,000 Congo Republic, 1997-99
66 19,000 Morocco: war against France, 1953-56 (3,000), Western Sahara, 1975-today (16,000)
67 15,000? "Tens of thousands of casualties and displaced" (Le Monde, 06-10-09). Yemen government against Huthi rebels.
68 13,000 Israel-Palestinian conflict 1947-87 (5,000); 1987-91 (2,000); 2000-2009 (6,200: 80% Arabs, 20% Jews)
69 10,000 South Yemen, 1986 (civil war)

Sources: Brzezinski, Z., Out of Control: Global Turmoil on the Eve of the Twenty-first Century, 1993. Courtois, S., ed., Le Livre Noir du Communism, 1997. Heinsohn, G., Lexikon der Völkermorde, 1999. Heinsohn, G., Söhne und Weltmacht, 2006, 8th ed. Rummel. R., Death by Government, 1994. Small, M., Singer, J.D., Resort to Arms: International



Dr. Heinsohn goes on to note:

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If a conflict ranked number 68 out of 69 conflicts with at least 10,000 casualties is ranked number 1 in need of an urgent solution, other causes
than noble concerns for suffering may be at work. Since the Jews of Israel belong to the most persecuted ethnic and religious group in history the mismatch between facts and their worldwide perception may force us to ask if, again, an anti-Jewish bias is at work.

Of around 11,000,000 Muslims who suffered death by violence between 1948 and 2009, some 36,000, i.e., 0.3 percent or 1 out of 315 Muslims killed in violence died within 60 years of fighting with Israel (1948-2007).

More than 90 percent of the 11 million victims perished in Muslim-on-Muslim violence.


and then:

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The death toll in the Israel-Palestine conflict remained low over six decades (1948-2009) because only side tries to kill at random, whereas the Israeli side most of the time tries to defend itself with surgical strikes or targeted killing. One may even argue that the major factor for low Muslim casualties vis à vis Israel - as opposed to Muslim versus Muslim conflicts - is due to one side of the conflict not being Muslim.

Thus, it may be a good fortune for Palestinian Arabs that most of the time they must not turn against each other to consume their youth bulges but can turn the anger of their young men against Jews.

Yet, the battles of Nahr el Bared in Lebanon (May to September 2007) with more than 500 dead, or the intenecine slaughter between Hamas and Fatah in Gaza since 2006 (around 500 casualties) may give a hint of what may happen if youth bulge anger can no longer be executed against Jews.






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raprap
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2011 05:59 am
Funny how the Irish Republican Army isn't included in this mix--could it be that the data is based upon a biased?

Statistical breakdown of deaths in the 'Troubles'

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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2011 06:10 am
@raprap,
I think the criteria was conflicts with 10,000 or more casualties since 1949.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2011 09:43 am
@raprap,
Ever heard what Otto Von Bismarck said about the Irish?
raprap
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2011 12:04 pm
@gungasnake,
"providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and The United States' Otto Von Bismark?

I'm sure he had them as the butt of some barbed statement.

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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2011 02:18 pm
@raprap,
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"providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and The United States' Otto Von Bismark?


Not exactly... Somebody asked him what he would do with the situation in Ireland, and he replied that he'd have the Irish and Dutch switch countries, i.e. that in two years the Dutch would turn Ireland into a garden of Eden and in the same two years, the Irish would be drunk on their asses and neglect to mend the dikes, and all drown...
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2011 02:24 pm
Poop, Hinkey, are you two idiots reading this stuff??

I mean here you have a guy with a legitimate claim to being best/brightest category in European academia noting that actual figures indicate that the existence of Israel actually SAVES muslim lives since it keeps a certain number of them out of their normal thing of killing eachother, and it's not so much the case that they're BETTER at killing eachother than Israelis are at killing them, just that they have significantly fewer inhibitations about it.

Isn't reality a bitch??
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