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The Beatification of John Paul II

 
 
Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 08:33 am
What are your thoughts?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 08:41 am
@plainoldme,
Unprintable at the present time.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 08:48 am
@ossobuco,
I chuckled.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 08:53 am
Here's a quote from the AP release on the beatification ceremony:

"He restored to Christianity its true face as a religion of hope," Benedict said in his homily, referring to John Paul's decisive role in helping bring down communism

Restored hope? I thought Pope John XXVIII and Vatican II did that. isn't one of the rationales behind practicing any religion that it provides hope as well as solace?
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mags314772
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 09:17 am
@plainoldme,
This was the pope who ignored the pedophile scandal for years. His "miracle" was the supposed cure of a nun with Parkinson's. There's been doubts raised about that. So it's the perennial Catholic bullshit.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 09:20 am
@mags314772,
How can JPII be forgiven for the pedophile scandal?
wayne
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 10:27 am
Looks like just another case of Pope and Circumstance
mags314772
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 10:49 am
@plainoldme,
He can't.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 11:06 am
@plainoldme,
How can you beat someone to death whose already dead? Shocked

Oh wait.... I guess that's a different word then this one.

Well since there isn't a heaven. The process itself is moot and a simple waste of time to ponder.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 12:10 pm
@wayne,
Ba-dah-dah ching!
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fresco
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 01:51 pm
@plainoldme,
The battification of all religious pundits goes with the job!

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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 02:34 pm
This is a telling sentence from the AP story:

Vendors hawked John Paul trinkets: bottle openers, key chains, cushions, calendars and T-shirts.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 02:50 pm
@plainoldme,
If 'telling' you mean 'expected' that people around the world love to buy garbage and junk souvenirs than I guess you're right.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 02:58 pm
@tsarstepan,
What's an occasion without the junk?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 04:04 pm
If you aren't Catholic, I don't really see why this would bother you one way or another. I know it's hip to be all anti-religious and stuff on A2K or to be the bible literalistic fool that others appear to be.

In the grand scheme of things, it matters little.
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PUNKEY
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 04:08 pm
The Catholics desperately need a super hero now.

The Church is offering up the only guy that made it hip to be Catholic.

ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 10:02 am
@PUNKEY,
An article in today's LA Times that some may find interesting -
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-0504-rutten-20110504,0,963466.column
mags314772
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 02:24 pm
@ossobuco,
Thanks for the link, osso. I agree with the author. The church is really ramming this one through.....
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 02:39 pm
@mags314772,
I agree with Tim Rutten too. The period of time with Cardinal Ratzinger and Hans Kung going at it theologically tooth and nail was when I got disgusted myself and woke up to find I didn't believe any of it. At any rate, the church changed with the rise of Cardinal Ratzinger, for much the worse in my point of view, including the intensified naming of conservative cardinals around the world by both himself as Benedict and Pope John Paul II.
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