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Another bit of Proof That the University Has Failed

 
 
Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 03:31 pm
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In spite of soaring tuition costs, more and more students go to college every year. A bachelor’s degree is now required for entry into a growing number of professions. And some parents begin planning for the expense of sending their kids to college when they’re born. Almost everyone strives to go, but almost no one asks the fundamental question posed by Academically Adrift: are undergraduates really learning anything once they get there?

For a large proportion of students, Richard Arum and Josipa Roksa’s answer to that question is a definitive no. Their extensive research draws on survey responses, transcript data, and, for the first time, the state-of-the-art Collegiate Learning Assessment, a standardized test administered to students in their first semester and then again at the end of their second year. According to their analysis of more than 2,300 undergraduates at twenty-four institutions, 45 percent of these students demonstrate no significant improvement in a range of skills—including critical thinking, complex reasoning, and writing—during their first two years of college. As troubling as their findings are, Arum and Roksa argue that for many faculty and administrators they will come as no surprise—instead, they are the expected result of a student body distracted by socializing or working and an institutional culture that puts undergraduate learning close to the bottom of the priority list.

Academically Adrift holds sobering lessons for students, faculty, administrators, policy makers, and parents—all of whom are implicated in promoting or at least ignoring contemporary campus culture. Higher education faces crises on a number of fronts, but Arum and Roksa’s report that colleges are failing at their most basic mission will demand the attention of us all.
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/presssite/metadata.epl?isbn=9780226028552

It took a long time for people to notice, I first started talking about this around 1988, but progress is progress.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 03:44 pm
The best part is? Liberal Arts, long-derided by those in other majors, is clearly the best place to learn these skills:

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Students who majored in the traditional liberal arts — including the social sciences, humanities, natural sciences and mathematics — showed significantly greater gains over time than other students in critical thinking, complex reasoning and writing skills.

Students majoring in business, education, social work and communications showed the least gains in learning. However, the authors note that their findings don't preclude the possibility that such students "are developing subject-specific or occupationally relevant skills."

Greater gains in liberal arts subjects are at least partly the result of faculty requiring higher levels of reading and writing, as well as students spending more time studying, the study's authors found. Students who took courses heavy on both reading (more than 40 pages a week) and writing (more than 20 pages in a semester) showed higher rates of learning.

That's welcome news to liberal arts advocates.

"We do teach analytical reading and writing," said Ellen Fitzpatrick, a history professor at the University of New Hampshire.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/01/18/106949/study-many-college-students-not.html#ixzz1BQSBKYhn


Cycloptichorn
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 04:05 pm
It doesn't matter. Corporate America still wants that piece of paper. It says you can at least finish something.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 04:09 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
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The best part is? Liberal Arts, long-derided by those in other majors, is clearly the best place to learn these skills:

Universities are about research and job training, not education for the most part. There was a different report out about 6 months ago that showed that undergraduates spend about 40% less time studying that was the case two decade ago. There was still another report about a year ago that showed that universities increasingly put their money into rec and social programs for their undergrads, not into education programs. Not having enough school work to do these young people need the university to supply things to do, it seems.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 04:15 pm
@hawkeye10,
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There was still another report about a year ago that showed that universities increasingly put their money into rec and social programs for their undergrads, not into education programs.


I'd love to see that report. Can you link to it?

Cycloptichorn
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 04:23 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
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I'd love to see that report. Can you link to it?

No, but I will take a look for it....BTW I cant do search within results with google anymore, which gets in my way big time...do you know if they took that usability out?
DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 04:27 pm
@hawkeye10,
That's funny....

I distinctly remember learning boolean algebra, physics, chemistry, and German, and statistics.

Admittedly, my history classes are a tad fuzzy at this point, but I do remember learning about the Nat Turner uprising, Malcolm X, and railroad construction incentives.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 04:28 pm
@hawkeye10,
I will agree that in my experience undergraduates were tolerated as a necessary evil; without undergraduates you don't get graduate students that you can work to death.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 04:33 pm
@hawkeye10,
http://deltacostproject.org/analyses/delta_reports.asp

story
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/education/10education.html

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Share of College Spending for Recreation Is RisingBy SAM DILLON
Published: July 9, 2010
American colleges are spending a declining share of their budgets on instruction and more on administration and recreational facilities for students, according to a study of college costs released Friday.

The report, based on government data, documents a growing stratification of wealth across America’s system of higher education.

At the top of the pyramid are private colleges and universities, which educate a small portion of the nation’s students, while public universities and community colleges, where tuitions are rising most rapidly, serve greater numbers and have fewer resources.

The study of revenues and spending trends of American institutions of higher education from 1998 through 2008 traces how the patterns at elite private institutions like Harvard and Amherst differed from sprawling public universities like Ohio State and community colleges like Alabama Southern.

The United States is reputed to have the world’s wealthiest postsecondary education system, with average spending of around $19,000 per student compared with $8,400 across other developed countries, said the report, “Trends in College Spending 1998-2008,” by the Delta Cost Project, a nonprofit group in Washington that promotes greater scrutiny of college costs to keep tuitions affordable.

“Our analysis shows that these comparisons are misleading,” Jane Wellman, the group’s executive director, said in an e-mail statement. “While the United States has some of the wealthiest institutions in the world, it also has a ‘system’ of postsecondary education with far more economic stratification than is true of any other country.”

Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 04:39 pm
@hawkeye10,
Thanks. It seems that what has happened is more money being cut from 'instruction' expenses while money spent on other stuff has remained steady.

However; I'm not sure that either article does in fact support the title of this thread.

Cycloptichorn
talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 04:49 pm
With launch of Sputnik, America decided to catch up began churn out technical grads. Education was put by the roadside. New math was introduced. The system has not been readjusted as the space race is no more.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 04:59 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
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However; I'm not sure that either article does in fact support the title of this thread.

Only for those of us who think that universities should be in the business of education, not recreation or job training.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 05:02 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

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However; I'm not sure that either article does in fact support the title of this thread.

Only for those of us who think that universities should be in the business of education, not recreation or job training.


I believe that Universities are in fact in the business of all three of those things. Some people want more of a classical education and some want to learn engineering. Some pay to go to college for social advancement.

What exactly is the problem?

Cycloptichorn
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2011 05:03 pm
@talk72000,
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Education was put by the roadside. New math was introduced. The system has not been readjusted as the space race is no more.
It is more complex than that....A couple a days ago my University of Washington daughter was telling me about this dorm mate of hers who decided to take a communications degree because as she put it she wanted the university experience but she did not want to have to work.

I've got a problem with that....
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