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Those awesome goat heads

 
 
roger
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 06:32 pm
@hingehead,
They haven't gotten a tire since I went to all kevlar, but there are also certain fields I've learned not to ride across.

Do you also have what we not Latin speakers call Russian Olive? Before kevlar, I tried tire liners. One of them penetrated the tire, stopped at the liner, and kind of slithered around it, finally working its way through the tube.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 06:35 pm
@squinney,
Squinney, I don't think we had 1/4" of rain from mid March through the end of July. Now, we're not used to much, but this year has been way below normal. At least there was a pretty good snow pack in the mountains. Neither of the rivers has dried up. Well, the third one did, but only a New Mexican or a Mojave Indian would call the La Plata a river.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 06:46 pm
@roger,
Not to be confused with new mexican olive, which I planted two of, one still surviving (Forestiera neomexicana).
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 07:05 pm
@roger,
I find mentions of Elaeagnus angustifolia but I don't think it's common - I've never heard of it or seen it. I can't find an image of a thorn/seed either - can you?
roger
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 08:32 pm
@hingehead,
That seems to be the formal nomenclature.

I used 'russian olive thorn photos' within google and got a couple. The best couldn't be copied, and the others didn't show the detail I wanted. Our Riverwalk Park is attempting to gradually remove them, mostly because they are an invasive species. Give them a high enough water table and they grow like crazy, even in our salty, alkaline soil.
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 08:44 pm
I remember goatheads! Not for the plant itself, but for the seeds which used to puncture our bicycle tires.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 08:45 pm
@littlek,
Yep. That's the ones, alright.
littlek
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 08:47 pm
@roger,
I also used the seeds for jewelry.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 09:14 pm
@littlek,
That's interesting.

<Roger makes sign of cross>
littlek
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 09:31 pm
@roger,
hahahaha....
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 10:18 pm
@hingehead,
Huh? Eleagnus augustifolia is a shrub I know of, at least somewhat, and I'm doubter on the terribleness.. (UCLA, right by the parking lot above the art building)

I suppose I can be proven wrong..


Ack, that is russian olive? oy, vey.

Backs up, turns around, runs away.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 10:29 pm
@ossobuco,
Do not doubt the lethality of Russian olive. Not up there with honey locust, but a darn respectable spike.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2010 10:45 pm
@roger,
Yeh, I don't, but I didn't remember that one was the other.
Accccccccccck.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 05:25 am
@tsarstepan,
Oh! Shocked
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dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 07:39 am
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/dadpad/online%20photos/P8100164.jpg
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 09:46 am
Goathead Thorn: Last but Not Least of the Evil Plants
by Kathryn (Kathy) McKenzie Nichols
Published March 12, 2008 by:

A Weed That's Dangerous to People, Pets and Livestock
We human beings are rather smug about our accomplishments. That's why it's always so devastating when nature shows it can beat us, and easily.

I realized this some years ago when a mere plant seed punctured my son's bicycle tire.

My son was riding his bike at the school playground, and when he came home, pointed out that he had a flat tire. I was puzzled, but we had the tire fixed. Then the following week it happened again.

It was the fault of a little plant that I didn't even know existed, the goathead thorn (Tribulus terrestris).

Also known as puncture vine, caltrop, bull's head, and Texas sandbur, this weed came to California sometime in the early 20th century from Eurasia and Africa, probably attached to the wool of imported sheep. California is now one of the worst infested states, along with Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Oregon, and Texas.

Goathead thorn is a little low-growing weed, so flat to the ground that you might not even notice it unless you were looking for it. Rather deceptive, because if it weren't for the seeds, you would completely overlook it.

The seed case does look a little like the shape of a goat's head. That is, if the goat's head had big spikes sticking out of it.

It's about the nastiest, sharpest thorny thing I've ever seen. In addition to being able to pierce bicycle and auto tires, the seed spikes can injure people, pets, and livestock.

Goathead thorn is a problem throughout the Western United States. It is especially a problem for ranchers, who must deal with sheep, cattle and horses who are injured by the thorns, either by eating them or stepping on them.

One little goathead plant can produce up to 5,000 seeds a year. The seeds persist in the soil for as long as 20 years, making it very hard to completely eliminate it.

Farmers and ranchers really hate goathead thorn. The plants compete with crops for water. And the sharp seed burrs are very bad for livestock, since the spines can puncture their mouths, digestive tracts, and feet. The plants are also toxic to grazing animals, particularly sheep.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 09:51 am
There's a grass here in the a-hole o' whose seeds resemble the goathead's nutlets.

Their seeds are the bane of my cyclist existence.
roger
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 01:50 pm
@InfraBlue,
Please brush your tires before visiting New Mexico.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 01:58 pm
@roger,
I should probably empty my bilge too.
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 26 Aug, 2010 06:21 am
@dadpad,
That's better! Smile
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