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Calling humans animals

 
 
Carico
 
Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2009 12:10 am
I realize that most atheists don't know that calling humans animals can't make animals capable of interbreeding and exchanging genes. But the ignorance of atheists can't change reality any more than it can change history (which is another thing thing atheists don't understand).

So the only thing that calling humans animals because of the Darwin Delusion has done is encourage people (especially our children)to act no better than animals which they are doing. If one came from an animal, then he can act no better than an animal; Monkey-see, monkey do.

Most people now, including our children place bodily gratification as their highest value. Gone are the days when age, wisdom, knowledge and experience are qualities to emulate. Present are the days when sex, especially deviant sex are values to respect and adopt. :angryfire:

Once humans lose their ability to understand God, they become nothing more than "unreasoning" animals. Scientists thus see human sex as no better than what animals do; copulation. And that's now all marriage has become as well.

Animals don't marry, they just mate and breed. And now, humans want to just mate and breed with society's approval, so they have a "certificate" of marriage which is nothing more than a legal contract for sexual services so one can have access to the other's possessions.

More children are committing mass murder than ever before in history

Some countries like the Netherlands are sanctioning pedophile political parties because pedophiles have "rights".

The legislation wants to make it a crime to disapprove of homosexuality. Yet they don't want to place internet regulations on pornography because they don't want pornographers to interfere with the "right" to seduce our children.:rolleyes:

Human unborn babies are killed as easily as killing a gnat if the mothers don't want them. Not even animals kill their young in the wombs. :rolleyes:

And atheists wonder why God punishes people?:eek: Well I got news for atheists, God can see through you even though you can't look at yourselves objectively any more than any criminal defendant who's trying to save his own skin can. So you will be punished anyway. God has made it perfectly clear what's right and wrong and that those who repeatedly have contempt for him, deserve everlasting death.

But unlike any earthly judge, God has offered a free pardon to everyone no matter how evil the crimes he commits and how many they committed even though no one asked for the pardon, nor does anyone deserve it. All you have to do is confess your crimes say "yes." But anyone who can't even be honest enough to admit his crimes and say "yes" deserves what he gets.

So even though you know what God says will happen to you, if you deliberately reject his free pardon, not only are you a fool, your punishment will be worse since you showed much contempt for the judge. You will thus burn day and night forever and ever because that's exactly what people who spend their lives mocking God and His creation deserve. God will not be mocked whether you like it or not. :rolleyes:
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2009 04:49 am
@Carico,
For someone who accuses other people of slander you sure do put out a lot of your own. :no:
Carico
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2009 06:04 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;66688 wrote:
For someone who accuses other people of slander you sure do put out a lot of your own. :no:


So explain what part of my post is untrue. If you can't, then it's you who are slandering again. :frown:
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2009 07:41 am
@Carico,
Carico;66693 wrote:
So explain what part of my post is untrue. If you can't, then it's you who are slandering again. :frown:


You consistently make abrasive generalizations about an entire group of people.
Carico
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2009 07:57 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;66707 wrote:
You consistently make abrasive generalizations about an entire group of people.


Sorry, but there's truth and there are lies. If a whole group of people calls humans trees, they're liars. If the Nazi's called Jews vermin who need to be murdered, they're liars, pure and simply. Smile But if you want to call yourself an animal, I believe you. Smile
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2009 08:10 am
@Carico,
Carico;66714 wrote:
Sorry, but there's truth and there are lies. If a whole group of people calls humans trees, they're liars. If the Nazi's called Jews vermin who need to be murdered, they're liars, pure and simply. Smile But if you want to call yourself an animal, I believe you. Smile


Exactly my point.
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Numpty
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2009 05:08 pm
@Carico,
Carico;66645 wrote:
I realize that most atheists don't know that calling humans animals can't make animals capable of interbreeding and exchanging genes. But the ignorance of atheists can't change reality any more than it can change history (which is another thing thing atheists don't understand).

So the only thing that calling humans animals because of the Darwin Delusion has done is encourage people (especially our children)to act no better than animals which they are doing. If one came from an animal, then he can act no better than an animal; Monkey-see, monkey do.

Most people now, including our children place bodily gratification as their highest value. Gone are the days when age, wisdom, knowledge and experience are qualities to emulate. Present are the days when sex, especially deviant sex are values to respect and adopt. :angryfire:

Once humans lose their ability to understand God, they become nothing more than "unreasoning" animals. Scientists thus see human sex as no better than what animals do; copulation. And that's now all marriage has become as well.

Animals don't marry, they just mate and breed. And now, humans want to just mate and breed with society's approval, so they have a "certificate" of marriage which is nothing more than a legal contract for sexual services so one can have access to the other's possessions.

More children are committing mass murder than ever before in history

Some countries like the Netherlands are sanctioning pedophile political parties because pedophiles have "rights".

The legislation wants to make it a crime to disapprove of homosexuality. Yet they don't want to place internet regulations on pornography because they don't want pornographers to interfere with the "right" to seduce our children.:rolleyes:

Human unborn babies are killed as easily as killing a gnat if the mothers don't want them. Not even animals kill their young in the wombs. :rolleyes:

And atheists wonder why God punishes people?:eek: Well I got news for atheists, God can see through you even though you can't look at yourselves objectively any more than any criminal defendant who's trying to save his own skin can. So you will be punished anyway. God has made it perfectly clear what's right and wrong and that those who repeatedly have contempt for him, deserve everlasting death.

But unlike any earthly judge, God has offered a free pardon to everyone no matter how evil the crimes he commits and how many they committed even though no one asked for the pardon, nor does anyone deserve it. All you have to do is confess your crimes say "yes." But anyone who can't even be honest enough to admit his crimes and say "yes" deserves what he gets.

So even though you know what God says will happen to you, if you deliberately reject his free pardon, not only are you a fool, your punishment will be worse since you showed much contempt for the judge. You will thus burn day and night forever and ever because that's exactly what people who spend their lives mocking God and His creation deserve. God will not be mocked whether you like it or not. :rolleyes:


What a complete and utter load of crap.

Everything is you just said is based on conjecture and hear'say. The only reason you think all this is because of a 1700 year old book and the brainwashing you receive from your church.

For someone who preaches about the Bible you show little compassion and understanding for those who have a different opinion than you. If people chose to believe diferent from you, that is their perogative. Calling people names and labelling them is neither constructive nor beneficial to anyone.

I am guessing you are not long out of school, you still have much to learn about life and the world, as do we all. Do your self a favour and try and be a bit more understanding of peoples different ways, you may learn more that way.
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2009 08:22 pm
@Numpty,
What precisely separates us from animals?



Could it be our body structure? Naah, we share that with many other animals.

How about intelligence? Sorry, many animals share high levels of intelligence, tool use and problem solving.

What about the "baby killing" line you just had to inject? Well, they don't kill in utero (some of them don't produce offspring that way), but have you ever seen an animal eat its young? Happens more often than you'd think.

Our genetics use the same chemicals, proteins and "pieces" so it can't be that. Heck, we use many animal proteins and such to OUR advantage. I'm not talking about milk and whatnot... I refer to specific chemicals their bodies produce. Diabetic medicine is an excellent example.



So where's the line? Better question: What insecurity makes you want to put your own species above all others?
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Rabid Ewok
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2009 08:35 pm
@Carico,
Carico;66645 wrote:
I realize that most atheists don't know that calling humans animals can't make animals capable of interbreeding and exchanging genes. But the ignorance of atheists can't change reality any more than it can change history (which is another thing thing atheists don't understand).


The fact that we have common descent means that all categories that applied to our ancestors also apply to us. We are hominids (great apes), primates, mammals, vertebrates, animals, and eukaryotes. If you go on to say that human beings are not animals, does that include our closest relatives? After all, Chimpanzees and Bonobos are more closely related to humans than they are to Gorillas.
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Carico
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2009 06:54 am
@Numpty,
Numpty;66737 wrote:
What a complete and utter load of crap.

Everything is you just said is based on conjecture and hear'say. The only reason you think all this is because of a 1700 year old book and the brainwashing you receive from your church.

For someone who preaches about the Bible you show little compassion and understanding for those who have a different opinion than you. If people chose to believe diferent from you, that is their perogative. Calling people names and labelling them is neither constructive nor beneficial to anyone.

I am guessing you are not long out of school, you still have much to learn about life and the world, as do we all. Do your self a favour and try and be a bit more understanding of peoples different ways, you may learn more that way.


Sorry but I've got scripture to back me up and you've got...:dunno::rollinglaugh: And :dunno: is what's crap. :rollinglaugh:
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2009 07:53 am
@Carico,
Carico;66787 wrote:
Sorry but I've got scripture to back me up and you've got...:dunno::rollinglaugh: And :dunno: is what's crap. :rollinglaugh:


See, this is exactly what I was talking about.

Saying you have scripture on your side does you no good since we reject scripture.

To convince us you are right you need to use something we can agree on that points to your belief.
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Rabid Ewok
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2009 08:00 am
@Carico,
Carico;66787 wrote:
Sorry but I've got scripture to back me up and you've got...


The appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.
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Numpty
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2009 08:44 am
@Carico,
Carico;66787 wrote:
Sorry but I've got scripture to back me up and you've got...:dunno::rollinglaugh: And :dunno: is what's crap. :rollinglaugh:


Oh,...So you have a book put together 1700 years ago by a council as your evidence.

If i brought that to the party for the basis of evolution, you would, quite rightly blow me out the water.

So my good man, bring forth your corobrative evidence. You know, the stuff that backs up ur claims.
Carico
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2009 11:37 am
@Numpty,
Numpty;66808 wrote:
Oh,...So you have a book put together 1700 years ago by a council as your evidence.

If i brought that to the party for the basis of evolution, you would, quite rightly blow me out the water.

So my good man, bring forth your corobrative evidence. You know, the stuff that backs up ur claims.


I know you consider zero accounts in history of creatures like Neanderthals as evidence that they lived,:rollinglaugh: but at least we have accounts. Wink Thus, your beliefs qualify as a delusion since they can't be documented by anyone in reality. Sorry. Wink
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2009 01:15 pm
@Carico,
Carico;66825 wrote:
I know you consider zero accounts in history of creatures like Neanderthals as evidence that they lived


No, fossils and DNA samples are evidence that the neanderthals lived.
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2009 01:18 pm
@Carico,
Carico;66825 wrote:
but at least we have accounts. Wink

Thus, your beliefs qualify as a delusion since they can't be documented by anyone in reality. Sorry. Wink


So simply writing something makes it a reality?

If I wrote in a journal that I lived with dragons and historians found this journal hundreds of years later, would they consider that a reality?

Simply because something was written by somebody a long time ago, doesn't make it true or believable for that matter.
Carico
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2009 03:33 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;66833 wrote:
So simply writing something makes it a reality?

If I wrote in a journal that I lived with dragons and historians found this journal hundreds of years later, would they consider that a reality?

Simply because something was written by somebody a long time ago, doesn't make it true or believable for that matter.


You really don't know what reality is, do you. No wonder it's impossible to converse with you. :rolleyes: Well I guess you'll just have to remain in the dark about:

1) Who God is
2) What happened in history
3) Why animals can't turn into people
4) What sin is
5) Why you're going to hell
6) Why it's foolish to think you know better than God does
7) Why your posts look foolish
8) Why lies aren't valid arguments
9) The difference between the imagination and what happens in the outside world

And just about everything else. Until you know what reality is, I'm afraid there's nothing I or anyone can do for you. Sorry. :frown:
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 02:15 am
@Carico,
Carico;66844 wrote:
You really don't know what reality is, do you. No wonder it's impossible to converse with you. :rolleyes: Well I guess you'll just have to remain in the dark about:

1) Who God is
2) What happened in history
3) Why animals can't turn into people
4) What sin is
5) Why you're going to hell
6) Why it's foolish to think you know better than God does
7) Why your posts look foolish
8) Why lies aren't valid arguments
9) The difference between the imagination and what happens in the outside world

And just about everything else. Until you know what reality is, I'm afraid there's nothing I or anyone can do for you. Sorry. :frown:


A man who believes in a talking snake and a magic man in the clouds is critiquing other people's understanding of reality? :rollinglaugh:
Carico
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 04:14 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;66947 wrote:
A man who believes in a talking snake and a magic man in the clouds is critiquing other people's understanding of reality? :rollinglaugh:


Again, you believe in billions of talking apes. :rollinglaugh: Eve actually heard words from Satan when the serpent approached her. But actually, the serpent was not a serpent as we know it when he approached Eve. So as usual, you're not reading the bible correctly. Wink
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 05:25 am
@Carico,
Carico;66962 wrote:
Again, you believe in billions of talking apes.


Humans talk, do they not?

Quote:
:rollinglaugh: Eve actually heard words from Satan when the serpent approached her. But actually, the serpent was not a serpent as we know it when he approached Eve. So as usual, you're not reading the bible correctly. Wink


Nevertheless you criticize others understanding of reality and yet you've been unable/unwilling to justify your own.
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