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RESS
 
Reply Sun 26 Jul, 2009 09:47 pm
[SIZE="5"]QUESTION - Forget the dead?[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]Should the tomb stones at the graves of the White Supremacist Racist dead be modified, knocked down, left standing or other?


Think carefully.


Answer intelligently.


What say ye? (What say you all?)


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Numpty
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 01:23 am
@RESS,
RESS;66931 wrote:
[SIZE="5"]QUESTION - Forget the dead?[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]Should the tomb stones at the graves of the White Supremacist Racist dead be modified, knocked down, left standing or other?


Think carefully.


Answer intelligently.


What say ye? (What say you all?)


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Go away.
RESS
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 07:43 pm
@Numpty,
Numpty;66937 wrote:
Go away.



:eek:

___:disgust:
________:ban:

_______________:no:


[SIZE="3"]What? :what:


Do you think it is right to deny people an opportunity to think the issue over thoroughly and come up with sensible and interesting responses to a subject that might be an intellectual as well as an emotional challenge here at Conflictingviews.com? :uhh:


What sayest thou? (What say you?)[/SIZE]
kynaston
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 09:35 pm
@RESS,
RESS;66931 wrote:
[SIZE="5"]QUESTION - Forget the dead?[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]Should the tomb stones at the graves of the White Supremacist Racist dead be modified, knocked down, left standing or other?


Think carefully.


Answer intelligently.


What say ye? (What say you all?)


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I don't know what's on your mind, but it seems to me that no monument should last beyond the final person who recalls the person commemorated. Statues are just an unnecessary clutter, and human vanity just makes us look more ludicrous than the other apes.
xexon
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jul, 2009 10:27 pm
@RESS,
Whatever happens affects the living and not the dead.

If they need the land for a new housing development, they'll uproot you. Being naughty or nice in life won't make any difference to such people.


x
Ares cv
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 03:02 am
@RESS,
RESS;66931 wrote:
[SIZE="5"]QUESTION - Forget the dead?[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]Should the tomb stones at the graves of the White Supremacist Racist dead be modified, knocked down, left standing or other?


Think carefully.


Answer intelligently.


What say ye? (What say you all?)


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When you take away the rights of any one person, no matter who they are, the rights of everyone else will soon follow. You can't defile someones grave just because they exercised their right to be entitled to their own opinions. Did their opinion drive them to murder? Maybe. Lynch? Maybe. But what would be the POINT of defiling their graves except a little feeling of 'revenge' or 'vengeance' in the deep parts of your heart? People live too much of their lives in the past, dwelling on things like racism and stupid ****, its over so get over it.
Whip
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 01:01 pm
@RESS,
RESS;66931 wrote:
[SIZE="5"]QUESTION - Forget the dead?[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]Should the tomb stones at the graves of the White Supremacist Racist dead be modified, knocked down, left standing or other?


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Why are you only concerned with the desecration of the graves of "White Supremacist Racist"? What about communist such as Stalin or Marx or Lenin? Personally, I would love to urinate on the graves of all 3 of these Jews. But in Europe I would probably go to jail just for thinking of it. You all have some really sick laws over there. Don't worry though, the U.S. is playing catch up and we will soon be like you.
RESS
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 06:54 pm
@xexon,
xexon;67030 wrote:
Whatever happens affects the living and not the dead.

If they need the land for a new housing development, they'll uproot you. Being naughty or nice in life won't make any difference to such people.


x



[SIZE="5"]NEW DEVELOPMENT[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]The "New Development" idea provides an interesting angle.

The redevelopment of the sites, shrines, tomb stones and land that is dedicated to the dead White Supremacist Racists could bring about new powerful ideological developments. :headbang:

This is interesting food for thought.


What say ye? (What say you all?)

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RESS
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 07:00 pm
@kynaston,
kynaston;67026 wrote:
I don't know what's on your mind, but it seems to me that no monument should last beyond the final person who recalls the person commemorated. Statues are just an unnecessary clutter, and human vanity just makes us look more ludicrous than the other apes.




[SIZE="5"]UNNECESSARY CLUTTER?[/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]What value is history?[/SIZE]:dunno:
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RESS
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 07:06 pm
@Whip,
Whip;67070 wrote:
Why are you only concerned with the desecration of the graves of "White Supremacist Racist"? What about communist such as Stalin or Marx or Lenin? Personally, I would love to urinate on the graves of all 3 of these Jews. But in Europe I would probably go to jail just for thinking of it. You all have some really sick laws over there. Don't worry though, the U.S. is playing catch up and we will soon be like you.




[SIZE="5"]THREE (3) JEWS[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]Are you sure those three (3) people you mentioned are Jewish?[/SIZE]
RESS
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 09:25 pm
@Ares cv,
Ares;67043 wrote:
When you take away the rights of any one person, no matter who they are, the rights of everyone else will soon follow. You can't defile someones grave just because they exercised their right to be entitled to their own opinions. Did their opinion drive them to murder? Maybe. Lynch? Maybe. But what would be the POINT of defiling their graves except a little feeling of 'revenge' or 'vengeance' in the deep parts of your heart? People live too much of their lives in the past, dwelling on things like racism and stupid ****, its over so get over it.






[SIZE="5"]THE DEAD CHANGE THEIR MIND[/SIZE] (Cryptic)


[SIZE="3"]Do you think it is possible that the White Supremacist Racist dead, on reflection, would appreciate the Knock Down/Modification of their shrines, tomb stones and memorials if it were possible for the dead to be made conscious of how values have changed? :what: [SIZE="1"](A bit too abstract for some, perhaps)[/SIZE]


Think carefully. :scratchchin:


Answer intelligently. :bangin:


What sayest thou? (What say you?)



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Ares cv
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 11:33 pm
@RESS,
RESS;67083 wrote:
[SIZE="5"]THE DEAD CHANGE THEIR MIND[/SIZE] (Cryptic)


[SIZE="3"]Do you think it is possible that the White Supremacist Racist dead, on reflection, would appreciate the Knock Down/Modification of their shrines, tomb stones and memorials if it were possible for the dead to be made conscious of how values have changed? :what: [SIZE="1"](A bit too abstract for some, perhaps)[/SIZE]


Think carefully. :scratchchin:


Answer intelligently. :bangin:


What sayest thou? (What say you?)



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Uhh... No? I know people that are alive TO THIS DAY that lived in that era, and STILL have racist idealism and STILL have those values in them. People do not change just because the present generations wish them to. You could reserect Hitler, and you had better bet your ass he'd do it over again, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, what of these people? Lenin? Should we knock their graves over? Why exactly did you just choose white supremisist? What about Black Supremisist? Shall we knock over and defile their graves?

Think carefully. :scratchchin:


Answer intelligently. :bangin:


What sayest thou? (What say you?)
kynaston
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 12:53 am
@RESS,
RESS;67079 wrote:
[SIZE="5"]THREE (3) JEWS[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]Are you sure those three (3) people you mentioned are Jewish?[/SIZE]


Marx's father was an ex-Jewish German Protestant, Lenin was essentially of Tatar origin and Stalin was a Georgian. These facts are well known . Don't people talk nonsense!
Whip
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 03:08 am
@kynaston,
A Russian archival journal and the Lenin Museum recently publicized that Lenin's maternal grandfather was a Jew, while acknowledging that this ancestry of the founder of the Soviet state had been suppressed.



Stalin's childhood origins were supposedly Georgian, but the truth is his mother was Ossete, from the Khazarian region.In the Georgian language "shvili" means son of, or son, as in Johnson. "Djuga" means Jew. Therefore Djugashvili means Jewison.

So Joe Stalin's real name, before he changed it, was Joe Jewison. It gets better, his name was Joseph David Djugashvili, a typical Jewish name. During his revolutionary days he changed his name to "Kochba", the leader of the Jews during one of the anti-Roman uprisings of the Jews. Russians don't change their names. Georgians don't change their names. Jews change their names.

Stalin's mother Ekaterina did laundry and housekeeping for David Papisnedov, a local Jew, who was Stalin's real father. Their nickname for Stalin was "Soso". Stalin received Papisnedov at the Kremlin often. Comrade Papisnedov often was visited by Nikolai Przhevalsky, a Jewish trader, and he is also considered a possibility as Stalin's father.


Karl Marx was born in Trier, in the German Rhineland, in 1818. Although his family was Jewish they converted to Christianity so that his father could pursue his career as a lawyer in the face of Prussia's anti-Jewish laws.
kynaston
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 03:27 am
@Whip,


Well, if it makes you happy to think so!
RESS
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 05:58 pm
@kynaston,
[CENTER][SIZE="4"]LAUGH AT THE CRIPPLED :rollinglaugh:

MOCK THE INJURED Laughing

MAKE FUN OF THE STRESSED:spaz:[/SIZE][/CENTER]




[SIZE="3"]Is it justifiable to laugh at the crippled White Supremacist Racists, mock the injured White Supremacist Racists and make fun of the stressed White Supremacist Racists UNTIL such time that they choose to change their ideological position?[/SIZE]:dunno:

[SIZE="1"]Fun & Laughter; Sorry![/SIZE]




[SIZE="3"]Think carefully. :scratchchin:


Answer intelligently. :bangin:


What say ye? (What say you all?)[/SIZE]
RESS
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 06:13 pm
@Ares cv,
Ares;67084 wrote:
Uhh... No? I know people that are alive TO THIS DAY that lived in that era, and STILL have racist idealism and STILL have those values in them. People do not change just because the present generations wish them to. You could reserect Hitler, and you had better bet your ass he'd do it over again, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, what of these people? Lenin? Should we knock their graves over? Why exactly did you just choose white supremisist? What about Black Supremisist? Shall we knock over and defile their graves?

Think carefully. :scratchchin:


Answer intelligently. :bangin:


What sayest thou? (What say you?)





[SIZE="4"]NEUTRALISING THE POWER OF THE STATUE/MEMORIAL[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]You have provided interesting food for thought, Ares.


Would we all agree that the best way to neutralise the POWER of a White Supremacist Racist statue/memorial would be to place it in contrast/juxtaposition with it's ideological opposite?:dunno:


What say ye? (What say you all?)



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Ares cv
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jul, 2009 12:18 am
@RESS,
RESS;67107 wrote:
[SIZE="4"]NEUTRALISING THE POWER OF THE STATUE/MEMORIAL[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]You have provided interesting food for thought, Ares.


Would we all agree that the best way to neutralise the POWER of a White Supremacist Racist statue/memorial would be to place it in contrast/juxtaposition with it's ideological opposite?:dunno:


What say ye? (What say you all?)



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You know... making a sentence SOUND smart doesn't MAKE it smart... It just makes it complicated. No, defiling the grave of a White Supremacist Racist is the same as defiling the grave of the Great Buddha himself. Ideas, no matter how evil or how wrong they may be, still have the right to be ideas. Might I ask you, how do you think Hitler started his rampage??? I think it may have been something similar to the idea you have presented. Someone comes along to a point such as you have and they get it in their head that these people don't deserve to be remembered, so they destroy EVERYTHING they stand for (Stalinism -- Trotskyism Hitler -- Jews), they might start off like you want to, by destroying their landmarks, but then they go to their literature and then their buildings and then their people. You have, in your haste to rid the world of White Supremacist Hate, created a HATE for white supremacists. Hate, no matter who it is directed at, is hate, and I'll have no part in it.
Ares cv
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jul, 2009 12:25 am
@RESS,
RESS;67106 wrote:
[CENTER][SIZE="4"]LAUGH AT THE CRIPPLED :rollinglaugh:

MOCK THE INJURED Laughing

MAKE FUN OF THE STRESSED:spaz:[/SIZE][/CENTER]




[SIZE="3"]Is it justifiable to laugh at the crippled White Supremacist Racists, mock the injured White Supremacist Racists and make fun of the stressed White Supremacist Racists UNTIL such time that they choose to change their ideological position?[/SIZE]:dunno:

[SIZE="1"]Fun & Laughter; Sorry![/SIZE]




[SIZE="3"]Think carefully. :scratchchin:


Answer intelligently. :bangin:


What say ye? (What say you all?)[/SIZE]

Uhhh.... No? For a few reasons... 1 it wouldn't make them change their beliefs 2 it would make them more defensive of their beliefs and 3 it would FUEL their beliefs... Why do you have this campaign against White Supremacists? Again, how about Black Supremacists? What about Hispanic Supremacists? At the foot of every race there are Supremacy advocates, it is in our nature for us to want those of our likeness to be SUPREME, it is in our biology. So try picking at someone else, because anymore White Supremacists are about as Supreme as a Taco Bell Taco Supreme.
RESS
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jul, 2009 09:57 pm
@Ares cv,
Ares;67117 wrote:
You know... making a sentence SOUND smart doesn't MAKE it smart... It just makes it complicated. No, defiling the grave of a White Supremacist Racist is the same as defiling the grave of the Great Buddha himself. Ideas, no matter how evil or how wrong they may be, still have the right to be ideas. Might I ask you, how do you think Hitler started his rampage??? I think it may have been something similar to the idea you have presented. Someone comes along to a point such as you have and they get it in their head that these people don't deserve to be remembered, so they destroy EVERYTHING they stand for (Stalinism -- Trotskyism Hitler -- Jews), they might start off like you want to, by destroying their landmarks, but then they go to their literature and then their buildings and then their people. You have, in your haste to rid the world of White Supremacist Hate, created a HATE for white supremacists. Hate, no matter who it is directed at, is hate, and I'll have no part in it.






[SIZE="5"]SAVE THE PEOPLE:headbang:[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]Is it not true that working to neutralise the POWER of White Supremacist Racist ideology could save people consciously and unconsciously classified as White?


Think carefully :scratchchin:


A task such as this must be undertaken by an organisation that has the tried, tested and irrefutable Moral Authority to command in Majesty from the Moral High Ground.
Is this not a fitting description of the RESS?


What say ye? (What say you all?)



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