The Virgin Birth

:rollinglaugh:It only makes sense to delusional people who think their gods. :rollinglaugh:

Sorry, but all indications are that the virgin birth story in Matthew and Luke (Mark and John make no mention of it, nor does Paul, who wrote even earlier) is nothing more than adaptation of Pagan myths into Christianity.

Virgin birth was common in many of the religions preceding Christianity and never mentioned in Christianity until the 2nd century CE. Many of the earliest Church Fathers; especially Paul, the true founder of the present incarnation of Christianity, seem to have no knowledge of the virgin birth of Jesus. However, the ancients believed that many of their gods were immaculately conceived and born of virgins, either goddesses or mortal women. A few of these are:

Mut emu a, the virgin queen of Egypt was said to have given immaculately conceived virgin birth to the Pharaoh Amenophis III. In the temple that he built in Luxor, the story of his conception and birth are told on the walls ? The Annunciation, where the god Tht announces to the Queen that she is to become a mother. The Immaculate Conception, wherein the god Kneph (the Egyptian equivalent of the Holy Spirit) mystically impregnated the virgin Queen. The Birth of the Man God Amenophis III. The Adoration, where in the new born is adored by gods, men and (believe it or not) three Magi?now where have I heard that story before?

Horus was said to have been born the child of the Virgin Goddess Isis, according to some stories as the parthenogenetic child of the virgin mother or by other stories, the son of the dead god Osiris.

Attis, the Phrygian god, was said to be the son of the virgin Nana.

Dionysos, the Greek God, was said to be the son of Zeus and the virgin Semele, and was thus half human and half divine. His myth, current long before the Christian era has him persecuted by the King of Thebes, to have disappeared from earth and reappearing as a light shining bright as the sun, speaking to his disciples (now what is that similar to?) and he also visited Hades. This story appears in ?The Bacchae?, written around 410 BCE by Euripides, and thus predates Christianity by 4 centuries.
Jason, the Greek Hero slain by Zeus, was said to have been the son of the virgin goddess Persephone.

Perseus, another Greek Hero, was said to have been born of a virgin?a story that had Justin Martyr attempting to explain why the Christian story was so similar to other virgin birth stories by saying that Satan had foreknowledge of Jesus? birth and subsequently counterfeited the miracle before it actually happened?thus unknowingly assigning Satan equal powers to Jehovah?LOL

Adonis, the Syrian god; Osiris, the first person of the Egyptian Trinity; and Mithras, the Persian god, all had similar strange tales told about their births ? Adonis was born of a tree (his mother, a virgin had been transformed into a tree and a boar scrapping his tusk against the tree caused him to spring from the tree, fully formed) , Mithras was born from a rock (one version has him born of a virgin in a cave) and Osiris was born of the Goddess Nut, possibly fathered by the god Ra (at which time a great voice announced from the temple that a good and great king had been born). At the time when Christianity arose all these gods were worshipped in various parts of the Roman empire. Attis, Adonis, Dionysos, Osiris, and Mithra were the principal gods in their respective countries; and those countries together formed the greater part of the Eastern provinces of the Roman empire, and of its great rival, the Persian empire.

Classical mythology is full of kindred stories, and the idea of a virgin birth was familiar to all men of that time. Of Plato it was related that his mother Perictione was a virgin who conceived him immaculately by the god Apollo. Apollo himself revealed the circumstances of this conception to Ariston, the affianced husband of the virgin. So even , as you can see, even great men could be virgin born.

But hold on, even in other areas of the world there were virgin birth, immaculate conception stories?.The Buddha?s mother, Maya, having been divinely chosen to give birth to the Buddha was borne away by spirits to the Himalayas, where she underwent ceremonial purifications at the hands of 4 queens. The Bodhisattva then appeared to her, walked around her three times. At the moment when he completed his peregrinations the Buddha entered her womb and great wonders took place in heaven, on earth and in Hell.

Might also want to check out my previous thread "Are the gospels inerrant" for the information showing that Matthew and Luke disagree with each other and with recorded history - thus rendering the entire story suspect to say the least. :patriot:

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So you believe in statues. Is that correct? :eek: Because that's what pagan "gods are; nothing more than statues of animals and humans made of wood, bronze, stone, gold or silver.

And how did Pharoah Amenophis 111 show he was born a sinless god? Did he rise from the dead? Did he bring the dead back to life or walk on water? Of course not. ;)Did he never show greed, lust, gluttony, sloth, anger, pride or envy? of course he did. So it's not hard to prove that a myth, or more accurately a lie. So try again.