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Significance of Churches/Temples

 
 
Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2008 11:22 am
Significance of Churches/Temples
O Learned and Devoted Servants of God,



Why is there so much rush in temples? There is only one reason. People think that if they go to the temples they can escape from the difficulties, which are the fruits of their sins. They also think that they can get some benefits (which are the fruits of good deeds) for good deeds that they have not performed. Obviously this is not true. The scriptures say 'Avasyam Anubhoktavyam' which means that we must enjoy the fruits of our good and bad deeds. You cannot escape the result of your bad deeds and you cannot achieve the result of a good deed, which you have not done. One cannot escape the punishment given by the judge in the court. Similarly, you cannot escape the judgment of God. If this fact is written at the gates of the temple, nobody will enter the temple.


Then what is the actual aim of the temple? One of the sixteen divine qualities (Kalyana Gunas) of God is beauty (Soundarya). For example it is said that the beauty of Lord Rama disturbed the minds of even sages. The beautiful Lord should be seen first; 'Drashtavyah', as said in the Veda. So the statue of God in the temple must be carved most beautifully. The priest should decorate the statue in the most beautiful way, so that our eyes will be fixed on the statue. The next step is 'Srotavyah', as said in the Veda. It means that after seeing the form of God, we must listen to His other divine qualities. It is the duty of the priest to explain the other divine qualities of God. The third step is 'Nididhyasitavyah', that is your minds should be filled with inspiration given by the all-round personality of God. With this inspiration you must go back home.

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marcus cv
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 09:04 am
@dattaswami cv,
In Christianity, there is no significance on church buildings, because believers called are Church of Christ. First church gathered in houses and still persecuted church around the world do the same. It's nice to have a building but it's not important.
dattaswami cv
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 11:58 am
@marcus cv,
marcus;61874 wrote:
In Christianity, there is no significance on church buildings, because believers called are Church of Christ. First church gathered in houses and still persecuted church around the world do the same. It's nice to have a building but it's not important.


Almost all people go to church for selfish prayers. Which God is not at all intersted in. His real devotees will never ask anything personal from Him. They are already surrendered to Him fully, then where is the question of personal choices.
marcus cv
 
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Reply Fri 24 Oct, 2008 12:53 am
@dattaswami cv,
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Almost all people go to church for selfish prayers. Which God is not at all intersted in.


Sorry, not a biblical concept!
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Fri 24 Oct, 2008 05:40 am
@marcus cv,
marcus;61874 wrote:
In Christianity, there is no significance on church buildings, because believers called are Church of Christ. First church gathered in houses and still persecuted church around the world do the same. It's nice to have a building but it's not important.


I've known many Christians that would say the same thing. The first preachings were held outside, so the actual brick and mortar makes no difference unless it's on a holy site or something. The criticism that is beginning brought against churches is rather the criticism of the organization and proceedings rather than the actual building itself.
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dattaswami cv
 
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Reply Fri 24 Oct, 2008 10:53 am
@marcus cv,
marcus;61889 wrote:
Sorry, not a biblical concept!


If you really analyse your attraction towards Jesus Himself is selfish motive. You love Jesus because He died for you. If He were not died for you, you would not have loved Him. I am just giving an example.

Thus you are just extending your worldly business in the case of God also! Selfishness is a bad odour, but love and service without any expectation and sacrifice for Lord is sacred scent.

A real devotee of God do not like His God to be suffering for him. A real devotee will object that. A real devotee will be ready to suffer for his own sins which are produced by his own deeds. Infact Lord suffer for such real devotees only , not for all. And He generally keep the suffering a secret so that the devotee will not know about it. If devotee come to know about God suffering for his sins then he will not allow this to happen, this is because the devotee loves the Lord in human form the most compared to anything in this world.

But what is now happening all are happy that Jesus have suffered for them. They are happy that Jesus died for them. Jesus never died for all! He died for His people only. His people are those who loved Him when He came to this earth in human form and who served Him in His mission in this earth when He was alive, for such selfless people only He died.

He is coming in every human generation to avoid any partiality, so that, any good devotees who are present in the world can be saved by His preaching.
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dattaswami cv
 
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Reply Fri 24 Oct, 2008 10:56 am
@marcus cv,
marcus;61889 wrote:
Sorry, not a biblical concept!



Jesus comes in human form in every human generation in search of real devotees. He takes the sins of such devotees on Him who are preasent now on this earth. And Jesus is also present in human form in now on earth. He will never appear in western countires, because if He comes in western countires, you and Vatican will be the first person who crucify Him once again!! So, He has taken birth in east and preaches from east so that west knows Him through His preachings and turn to the divine knowledge. In the east people accept Lord coming in Human form compared to west.
marcus cv
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2008 01:26 pm
@dattaswami cv,
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Jesus comes in human form in every human generation in search of real devotees. He takes the sins of such devotees on Him who are preasent now on this earth. And Jesus is also present in human form in now on earth. He will never appear in western countires, because if He comes in western countires, you and Vatican will be the first person who crucify Him once again!! So, He has taken birth in east and preaches from east so that west knows Him through His preachings and turn to the divine knowledge. In the east people accept Lord coming in Human form compared to west.


Again not a Biblical Concept. There is nothing what you are saying in the Bible. Please show where in the Bible your statements! Thanks.
dattaswami cv
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2008 11:32 pm
@marcus cv,
marcus;61981 wrote:
Again not a Biblical Concept. There is nothing what you are saying in the Bible. Please show where in the Bible your statements! Thanks.



You will never get salvation if you abide only by bible. God speaks to His people who are ready to listen and pursue His preaching. You are behaving live the same Jew who rejected Jesus and accepted Moses. Lord comes again and again in human form and preaches the divine knwoeldge which nobody is following because all treat old as God and reject the present.

If you are really interested in God you should approach the Lord present in this human generation now itself.
marcus cv
 
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Reply Tue 28 Oct, 2008 06:14 am
@dattaswami cv,
What is the standard, norm? we are all wacky people, each in certain way, how do we know what's right and wrong?
dattaswami cv
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2008 11:57 pm
@marcus cv,
marcus;62023 wrote:
What is the standard, norm? we are all wacky people, each in certain way, how do we know what's right and wrong?


All the preachings should be supported by scriptures. Veda is a scripture which is unpolluted so far due to its propagation by recitation. Thus Veda is the root of all the scriptures and you can find all the scriptures in Veda.
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dattaswami cv
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2008 12:01 am
@marcus cv,
marcus;62023 wrote:
What is the standard, norm? we are all wacky people, each in certain way, how do we know what's right and wrong?


God is available to all who seek Him in this generation itself. If you are a matured devotee of God and strongly love Him then He will approach you in human form. You need not search Him. So for this to happen you have to conquere your jealosy and egoism and love all the human being as yourself. By this training for a long time you can conquer your jealosy and egoism. When you have reached a certain level of maturity Lord will appear in front of you in human for preaching and guiding you to the right path.
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