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Who is the human incarnation in the present human generation?

 
 
Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2008 02:27 am
Who is the human incarnation in the present human generation?

A) In the Chemistry laboratory the practical procedure is given to you and the salt is given. According to the procedure you have to analyze the substance and find out the name of the salt by yourself. Veda says that the infinite true special knowledge, which cannot be preached by any one and which generates love and bliss in our hearts is the main characteristic of the Lord. He possesses super powers but does not use for exhibition due to egoism. By these confirmatory tests you can find out the fullest form of the Lord (Paripurna Avatara) who is Lord Datta himself. Of course all the preachers are the human incarnations of the disciples of Lord Datta. Some are the partial incarnations of Lord Datta like Kalavatara, Amsavatara etc.,
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 12:53 pm
@dattaswami cv,
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Veda says that the infinite true special knowledge, which cannot be preached by any one and which generates love and bliss in our hearts is the main characteristic of the Lord. He possesses super powers but does not use for exhibition due to egoism.


Knowledge is one of the attributes of God, but it's never elevated more than others. Instead God's love is the the dominant theme of the Bible.
And we love him because he first loved us (1John 4:19)
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 01:35 am
@marcus cv,
marcus;61486 wrote:
Knowledge is one of the attributes of God, but it's never elevated more than others. Instead God's love is the the dominant theme of the Bible.
And we love him because he first loved us (1John 4:19)


By miracles the existence of God is indicated and the miraculous knowledge gives the address of God (Jnanitvatmaiva?Gita, Prajnanam Brahma?Veda). Among the knowledge, love and bliss, knowledge is the most important sign since only knowledge can guide the soul to the goal. Expression of mere love or bliss or both cannot indicate God like the miracles. Without the proper realization, determination and practice will not materialize and without practice no fruit exists. Mere love can be seen even in a prostitute or a beloved darling who even sacrifices life for your sake. Such love does not guide you to the goal in the spiritual path and it dips you more in worldly bonds.

Similarly, you can see bliss in drunkard or similar persons smoking and taking drugs. They cannot guide you in the spiritual path because mere love and mere bliss cannot give you any realization and determination to practice. Hence, persons who are simply performing miracles and persons who are simply expressing reasonless love and bliss without clearing your doubts and without showing the correct path through perfect analysis are not the real human incarnations. Sometimes God incarnates only exhibiting the miraculous power to destroy evil forces and such incarnations (Matsya, Narasimha, Vamana etc.,) disappear immediately as soon as the purpose is over.
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2008 12:34 pm
@dattaswami cv,
In Christianity love is the most important because we are not saved by God's knowledge by but his love. In fact, if we were saved by His knowledge we would be all condemned to the eternal death because of our sins. But by his love, God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son that you and I not perished but have an eternal life.
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2008 10:57 am
@marcus cv,
marcus;61743 wrote:
In Christianity love is the most important because we are not saved by God's knowledge by but his love. In fact, if we were saved by His knowledge we would be all condemned to the eternal death because of our sins. But by his love, God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son that you and I not perished but have an eternal life.


Again the same thing. What is the greatness in Lord loving us. It is a open truth only. But the greatness of a devotee is loving God in return without ANY SELFISH DESIRE. This is the true love.


The above quoted verses is for beginners in the spiritual field. Those people in that part of the world were so cruel to bring them into atleast belief on God such preaching were necessary. But once one become a devotee he should learn about the real knowledge which is loving God without any selfishness. That is missing in your quotation. So, you must read Gita.
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2008 11:00 am
@marcus cv,
marcus;61743 wrote:
In Christianity love is the most important because we are not saved by God's knowledge by but his love. In fact, if we were saved by His knowledge we would be all condemned to the eternal death because of our sins. But by his love, God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son that you and I not perished but have an eternal life.


It will be highly appreciable if you will be able to read other scripture of Lord Jesus namely 'Gita' to understand what is the meaning of loving God without any selfishness, which is not at all show in bible. You can download english version of Gita from any site.
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2008 01:48 pm
@dattaswami cv,
There are strong proves that the Gita was written before Christ time, therefore to begin with it can't be written by Christ.

(Radhakrishnan, S. (2002). "Introductory Essay", The Bhagavad Gita. HarperCollins, p.14-15.)
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2008 11:56 pm
@marcus cv,
marcus;62331 wrote:
There are strong proves that the Gita was written before Christ time, therefore to begin with it can't be written by Christ.

(Radhakrishnan, S. (2002). "Introductory Essay", The Bhagavad Gita. HarperCollins, p.14-15.)


That means that Jesus never existed before Gita if it is so He will not exists after His death also.

Thus your belief is contradicts.

Dear marcus, Jesus means God. Jesus was there before Gita after Gita , before bible after bible. Thus the same God exists. But He can come in different body or appearance and preach the divine knoweldge, like Gita, bible etc.
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