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Seven Questions for Ron Paul

 
 
Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2008 11:33 am
At the Campaign for Liberty blog, Ron Paul promises to defend the ?Merits of the Austrian School? next week.

Very well. In 2004 I found seven serious problems with Hayekian economics. Let us see if Paul can defend Hayek on these seven points:

1) As discussed in Section II, Hayek was unclear whether his structure of production represents a yearly flow of goods or a distribution of wealth. Mises and Rothbard, like Hayek, seem to mean one and also the other. Skousen is at least consistent but, unfortunately, he is consistently wrong. He definitely means the amount of goods flowing by every year. This author?s work (1999) is about stock, not supply.

2) As discussed in Section III, Hayek?s triangle is printed sideways and backwards. The former problem can be corrected by rotating the graph but the latter problem is more fundamental. Hayek is speaking from the perspective of the owner of the final product looking back on his costs of production. He is speaking from Marx?s perspective. The perspective that we want is from right now, at time zero, looking forward into the future.

3) As discussed in Section IV, there must be some temporal measure or the Hayekian?s incessant references to ?lengthening the period of production? would not mean anything at all. Their theory of business cycles depends on credit expansions lengthening the period of production and on the inevitable contraction shortening it. It is impossible to talk about something being lengthened or shortened unless one knows how to measure it.

4) As discussed in Section V, Hayekian theory depends entirely too much on the specificity of capital goods. In reality, many companies make products or provide services which are used in all of Hayek?s five stages ? and they experience cyclical behavior too. Rothbard was wrong when he said ?To the extent that the new money is loaned to consumers rather than businesses, the cycle effects do not occur? (1970, p. 940 footnote).

5) As discussed in Section VI, Garrison?s conceptions of the natural rate of interest is faulty. The Hayekians are na?ve to cling to this mythical concept. There is no such thing as a natural rate of interest. In any case, credit limits are more important than interest rates. The necessity of a bust following boom times is adequately explained by the transfer of capital from smaller companies to larger ones.

6) In Garrison?s own words: ?the [Hayekian] theory of the business cycle is a theory of the unsustainable boom. It is not a theory of depression per se. In particular, it does not account for the severity and possible recalcitrance of the depression that may follow on the heels of the bust? (2001, p. 120). In 1930, Hayek could explain how the depression started. In 1936, he could not explain why it still persisted.

7) Austrian economists seem na?ve because their belief in a natural interest rate implies an ethical judgment on what is natural or unnatural, their discussion of the inevitable collapse of a credit expansion is typically presented as a sort of morality play and because they advocate an impractical 100% reserve requirement based solely on ethical considerations.

Seven strikes and you are out! Hayek?s horse fell dead underneath him in 1936. Seventy years later, his followers are still beating that horse saying ?Get up! Get up! We have to finish the race!?

Source: Summary of the Critique of Hayek
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 30 Sep, 2008 11:48 am
@Onion Eater,
these are more of 'statements' than questions.
Onion Eater
 
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Reply Thu 2 Oct, 2008 12:47 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;60420 wrote:
these are more of 'statements' than questions.


At Ron Paul's blog he writes:

"I notice in the comment section that once in a while someone will argue that the Austrian School?s take on the crisis isn?t persuasive, or that the School isn?t good at predictions, or it?s ?unscientific,? etc. I couldn?t disagree more strongly with all three contentions."

and

"F.A. Hayek won the Nobel Prize for showing how central banks? manipulation of interest rates creates the boom-bust cycle with which we are sadly familiar. In 1932, in the depths of the Great Depression, he described the foolish policies being pursued in his day - and which are being proposed, just as destructively, in our own."

Ron Paul is the self-appointed defender of Hayekian economics. So let him defend Hayek from the seven serious problems that I found in his theory.
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xj0hnx
 
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Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2008 07:12 am
@Onion Eater,
Do you really think Ron Paul has ever seen this forum, much less post on it? lol. Why don't you send him an email, and then post the results. Nad as already stated these aren't questions, they are statements, if you word them as questions that make sense, I'll even send them to him for you.
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 09:30 am
@xj0hnx,
Austrians! Take heart!

Phillip Mabry of the Mises Institute has stood up for Ron Paul! No longer must the Good Doctor's economic theory go undefended! Like Hercules performing his twelve labors, Mabry has undertaken to reply to not just one but all seven of my questions!

Check it out: Actual Politics forum.

Is he winning? You decide! The fate of Austrianism rests on his shoulders!
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