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A Black Man Became a Walking Red Herring Tonight

 
 
Whip
 
Reply Fri 11 Sep, 2009 09:43 am
A Black Man Became a Walking Red Herring Tonight

This was not a speech worthy of a national night of media coverage before a joint session of congress.

This was a partisan speech full of rubbing Republicans? noses in his legislative policy preferences.

Americans tonight are suffering pre-traumatic hemorrhoid disorder, knowing Barack Obama?s government is about to rape their wallets, destroy their wages, and force government healthcare down our throats.

We were treated to a vainglorious, pompous ass playing politics with healthcare while accuses everyone else of playing politics. And he spent the whole hour lying through his teeth.

Barack Obama has signed on in toto to the Democrats? healthcare plan, including a public option. He said that the plan won?t fund abortions. But it will. In fact, the Democrats specifically cut out of the legislation clear language to prevent funding of abortions. Moreso, the Hyde Amendment, which Barack Obama hides behind, would not apply to this legislation because the Hyde Amendment only applies to Department of Health and Human Services appropriations and, get this, the Democrats have decided that healthcare expenditures will not be in the HHS budget. Therefore, abortions will be paid for.

More importantly, Barack Obama said the plan will not cover illegal aliens. This is a lie. Joe Wilson was right. The legislation clearly says it will not fund illegal aliens BUT the legislation also prevents anyone from checking on the citizenship status of any person seeking healthcare. He is trying to have it both ways.

The entire speech from [not my president] Barack Obama was loaded with half-truths and flat out lies. For example, he said he would not force the government option on anyone. But, the legislation provides an incentive for private employers to shove their employees onto the government plan.

Likewise, the [not my] President says individuals will be able to keep their insurance even when the switch jobs. That is not true. According to the Democrats? legislation, if an employee switches jobs, they must get on a government approved plan and then can never get off it.

The [not my]President also tried to claim that this $900 billion plan will not add to the deficit. He will pay for it without tax increases he said. He said, instead, he?ll save money by reforming present healthcare. Why not do that now? Even so, the Congressional Budget Office says the total savings from stamping out waste, fraud, and abuse would barely be a dent in the overall costs of the legislation.

The [not my] President was short on details, high on rhetoric, and much too partisan on this issue. He wants to work across the aisle, but on his terms with a pre-existing failed Democrat plan.

Whatever the [not my] President did not accomplish tonight, he waved around the cadaver named Ted Kennedy as a distraction. It is a good thing Ted Kennedy drank as much as he did, because his corpse held up well as Obama dragged it through the aisles of the House of Representatives like Achilles dragging Hector across the plains of Troy. It was a disgusting display of distraction by a man who has staked his Presidency on the destruction of the American healthcare system.

We must help him fail.
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David cv
 
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Reply Fri 11 Sep, 2009 10:11 am
@Whip,
Well if he's not your president, then get out of his country. He is the POTUSA and thus if he's not your president, then America must not be your country. Wink
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Fri 11 Sep, 2009 12:39 pm
@Whip,
Whip;68418 wrote:
A Black Man Became a Walking Red Herring Tonight

This was not a speech worthy of a national night of media coverage before a joint session of congress.

This was a partisan speech full of rubbing Republicans? noses in his legislative policy preferences.

Americans tonight are suffering pre-traumatic hemorrhoid disorder, knowing Barack Obama?s government is about to rape their wallets, destroy their wages, and force government healthcare down our throats.

We were treated to a vainglorious, pompous ass playing politics with healthcare while accuses everyone else of playing politics. And he spent the whole hour lying through his teeth.

Barack Obama has signed on in toto to the Democrats? healthcare plan, including a public option. He said that the plan won?t fund abortions. But it will. In fact, the Democrats specifically cut out of the legislation clear language to prevent funding of abortions. Moreso, the Hyde Amendment, which Barack Obama hides behind, would not apply to this legislation because the Hyde Amendment only applies to Department of Health and Human Services appropriations and, get this, the Democrats have decided that healthcare expenditures will not be in the HHS budget. Therefore, abortions will be paid for.

More importantly, Barack Obama said the plan will not cover illegal aliens. This is a lie. Joe Wilson was right. The legislation clearly says it will not fund illegal aliens BUT the legislation also prevents anyone from checking on the citizenship status of any person seeking healthcare. He is trying to have it both ways.

The entire speech from [not my president] Barack Obama was loaded with half-truths and flat out lies. For example, he said he would not force the government option on anyone. But, the legislation provides an incentive for private employers to shove their employees onto the government plan.

Likewise, the [not my] President says individuals will be able to keep their insurance even when the switch jobs. That is not true. According to the Democrats? legislation, if an employee switches jobs, they must get on a government approved plan and then can never get off it.

The [not my]President also tried to claim that this $900 billion plan will not add to the deficit. He will pay for it without tax increases he said. He said, instead, he?ll save money by reforming present healthcare. Why not do that now? Even so, the Congressional Budget Office says the total savings from stamping out waste, fraud, and abuse would barely be a dent in the overall costs of the legislation.

The [not my] President was short on details, high on rhetoric, and much too partisan on this issue. He wants to work across the aisle, but on his terms with a pre-existing failed Democrat plan.

Whatever the [not my] President did not accomplish tonight, he waved around the cadaver named Ted Kennedy as a distraction. It is a good thing Ted Kennedy drank as much as he did, because his corpse held up well as Obama dragged it through the aisles of the House of Representatives like Achilles dragging Hector across the plains of Troy. It was a disgusting display of distraction by a man who has staked his Presidency on the destruction of the American healthcare system.

We must help him fail.
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Of all the tripe in this biased article this is the most worrying:

"we must help him fail"

What exactly is this supposed to mean? You want to willingly hurt America for political gains? Whoever does such a thing is guilty of treachery and should be brought to court on grounds of treason.
Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Sep, 2009 01:19 pm
@David cv,
David;68420 wrote:
Well if he's not your president, then get out of his country. He is the POTUSA and thus if he's not your president, then America must not be your country. Wink

Sorry son, this aint his country. The boy was born in Kenya and he is not White. Therefore he is not qualified to be a citizen, let alone a political leader, of this country.

P.S. Just so you know, I am not a citizen of America - I am a citizen of the United States of America.
Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Sep, 2009 02:31 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;68421 wrote:
Of all the tripe in this biased article this is the most worrying:

"we must help him fail"

What exactly is this supposed to mean? You want to willingly hurt America for political gains? Whoever does such a thing is guilty of treachery and should be brought to court on grounds of treason.


In my opinion, "we must help him fail", means we should allow him to continue his course and show himself for what he is and, by doing so, will fail naturally.

Do I want to "willingly, [I would have written, willfully], hurt America for political gain?" Yes. But, do I want to hurt the UNITED STATES of AMERICA? Implicitly, NO; Resoundingly, NO! Obama is doing that as the puppet who represents his tyrannical, hate filled masters. *** that lawn jockey. Nothing qualifies his halfrican ass to lead what was once the GREATEST country on earth! The greatest of governments that ever existed.... this punk isn't qualified to shine the shoes of a pauper.

Now, what of the article?
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 13 Sep, 2009 02:56 am
@Whip,
Whip;68424 wrote:

Now, what of the article?


And speculation counts as "journalism" now?
Whip
 
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Reply Mon 14 Sep, 2009 02:18 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;68434 wrote:
And speculation counts as "journalism" now?

Was your hero negro a liar, or not? Tell us, my hateful Jewish friend, is Obongo the man of the hour or an insult to liberty?
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 15 Sep, 2009 09:34 am
@Whip,
Whip;68439 wrote:
Was your hero negro a liar, or not? Tell us, my hateful Jewish friend, is Obongo the man of the hour or an insult to liberty?


Aren't you the presumptuous one?

Where have I said Obama was my hero? I support Obama, he has a lot of potential and he has done some great things, but he is not my hero. If you can show me where he lied that would be great!
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Tue 15 Sep, 2009 10:10 am
@Whip,
Whip;68423 wrote:
Sorry son, this aint his country. The boy was born in Kenya and he is not White. Therefore he is not qualified to be a citizen, let alone a political leader, of this country.


Prove it. While you are at it, prove that the 40+ year old announcements in the Hawaii newspapers are fraudulent. Are you about to say that the President can time travel?

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P.S. Just so you know, I am not a citizen of America - I am a citizen of the United States of America.


Prove it. Where's your long form? Scan and post your long form. Until you do, we won't consider you a citizen.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 15 Sep, 2009 01:02 pm
@Whip,
Whip;68423 wrote:
Sorry son, this aint his country. The boy was born in Kenya and he is not White.


What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Tue 15 Sep, 2009 08:24 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;68450 wrote:
What the hell does that have to do with anything?


No clue. Besides, why should we pay attention to someone that wasn't born in this country? I don't remember seeing whippy's long forms. WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?! WHAT IS HE HIDING?!
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 16 Sep, 2009 01:01 am
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;68454 wrote:
No clue. Besides, why should we pay attention to someone that wasn't born in this country? I don't remember seeing whippy's long forms. WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?! WHAT IS HE HIDING?!


He would have to provide a birth certificate, of course that could be faked, so he would also need the newspaper birth announcements, but that could be faked too, so he needs like 4 witnesses, a security camera video, hospital tag number, and the names of all of the nurses and doctors on duty that night.......just to be sure! Wink
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Wed 16 Sep, 2009 01:51 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;68455 wrote:
He would have to provide a birth certificate, of course that could be faked, so he would also need the newspaper birth announcements, but that could be faked too, so he needs like 4 witnesses, a security camera video, hospital tag number, and the names of all of the nurses and doctors on duty that night.......just to be sure! Wink


I could pay four people, make a fake video, forge hospital tags and just snag random names of doctors and nurses (who's gonna prove me wrong?).

I want him to pick me up in a DeLorean and BTTF me to the actual birth. That's the only REAL proof.
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David cv
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 03:05 am
@Whip,
Whip;68423 wrote:
Sorry son, this aint his country. The boy was born in Kenya and he is not White. Therefore he is not qualified to be a citizen, let alone a political leader, of this country.

P.S. Just so you know, I am not a citizen of America - I am a citizen of the United States of America.


He was born in Hawai'i, his mom is whiter then both of us combined (and being white isn't a req. for the presidency anyway) and being in the political life (as a Constitutional lawyer, political activist, appointed official and elected official) for most of his life seems to be a better resum? then most presidents we've had.

Also, I'm not your son. Wink
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Whip
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 01:05 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;68443 wrote:
Aren't you the presumptuous one?

Where have I said Obama was my hero? I support Obama, he has a lot of potential and he has done some great things, but he is not my hero. If you can show me where he lied that would be great!

Read the original post.
Whip
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 01:10 pm
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;68448 wrote:
Prove it. The burden of proof is not on me, it is on your lawn jockey president.



Prove it. Where's your long form? Scan and post your long form. Until you do, we won't consider you a citizen. I am not running for office. Unless INS comes for me, I don't have to prove my citizenship.

If you are INS, come to my house and I will provide all the proof needed. Unlike this halfrican fake, I will not try to hide that information. And, should I run for any government office, all of my records will be open for scrutiny.
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 08:34 pm
@Whip,
The burden of proof is on you. You are the one making the claim that he is born elsewhere, you need to provide the proof. The fact that he sits in that chair is proof that he is a US born citizen. The Hawaii Dept of Health and the governor of Hawaii (a Pubbie, imagine that!) have verified his long form. You also have to contest the newspaper announcements that have been in the archives for over four decades.

See, you aren't privvy to view another's long form by law. Its illegal. Elected rep or not, you do not have the required credentials to view it. Think of it as a civilian "classified".

Orly Owl got her ass handed to her this week. Seems to happen to her a lot... what with all her frivolous lawsuits and copied-then-forged birth certificates of Australians and such.

Too bad. So sad. Take your tinfoil conspiracies elsewhere.

Whip;68465 wrote:
If you are INS, come to my house and I will provide all the proof needed. Unlike this halfrican fake, I will not try to hide that information. And, should I run for any government office, all of my records will be open for scrutiny.


Doesn't look like a long form to me. How about you, Fatal? Looks like you're hiding that information right now. I think that if you actually were born here, you'd freely shove it in our faces with a nice scan and post of that long form birth certificate (complete with footprints, please).

What are you hiding? There has to be something you don't want people to see. C'mon, don't be afraid Smile
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2009 08:17 am
@Whip,
Whip;68464 wrote:
Read the original post.


Lie requires intent.
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