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God was a man first.

 
 
Reply Tue 30 Sep, 2008 10:46 pm
People have forgotten that the first God was a man.

For God to be in our image and not some other, means that He wears His true image. He would not start a relationship with man based on deception.

We are animals. We were less civilized animals at some point in time.
In the animal world, the God of each animal is one of their own.
The God of ants is an ant.
The God of lions is a lion.
The God of men, must be a man.

Or His -everlasting- ?- consciousness.

Whether you follow a God or a Political philosophy, do not take it so seriously.

Bibles are not meant to be taken seriously. This is known from the fact that talking snakes and other novel ideas are introduced in it?s beginning. Hence the introduction of God as the Word also early in scripture.
As to other miracles. If God wanted us to believe that reality can somehow have miracles, then He would have left one here, other than all that we see, for us to ponder and wonder where He went wrong in the first place if we are not perfect.

If there are miracles then we are the best of the miracle stocks.
This is where we kick in the, God helps those who help themselves, reference. No more miracles.

The first God was a man first.

Regards
DL
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dattaswami cv
 
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Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2008 12:15 pm
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;60449 wrote:
People have forgotten that the first God was a man.

For God to be in our image and not some other, means that He wears His true image. He would not start a relationship with man based on deception.

We are animals. We were less civilized animals at some point in time.
In the animal world, the God of each animal is one of their own.
The God of ants is an ant.
The God of lions is a lion.
The God of men, must be a man.

Or His -everlasting- ?- consciousness.

Whether you follow a God or a Political philosophy, do not take it so seriously.

Bibles are not meant to be taken seriously. This is known from the fact that talking snakes and other novel ideas are introduced in it?s beginning. Hence the introduction of God as the Word also early in scripture.
As to other miracles. If God wanted us to believe that reality can somehow have miracles, then He would have left one here, other than all that we see, for us to ponder and wonder where He went wrong in the first place if we are not perfect.

If there are miracles then we are the best of the miracle stocks.
This is where we kick in the, God helps those who help themselves, reference. No more miracles.

The first God was a man first.

Regards
DL


God comes in human form based on the prayers of some top most devotees to give direct experience

Suppose some parents requested the management of a school to provide a park for waiting. The management is capable of doing so and it is the earnest desire of some parents. Suppose, there are some parents who do not like the facility of the park. They should not object those parents who want to use the facility of the park. They should also not oppose the management in the construction of the park. It is the duty of the management to inform the availability of the park so that any parent who ever desires to use that facility can use it apart from those parents who requested for it. If this general information is not provided to all the parents, some may ask the management regarding their negligence in informing the parents. Similarly, God comes in human form based on the prayers of some top most devotees to give direct experience. Through the human body the experience is not only direct but also complete.

Such experience is not possible in the formless worship or in the worship of the statues. Such worship of formless God and statues is only a representative worship. It is just like worshipping the statue of the king and not the direct worship of the king. When you break a coconut near the statue, you can offer it by waving the hand and then eat it yourself. But when we break the coconut before the actual king, the king is fond of the pieces of coconut and will eat the entire coconut. When you want to avoid such inconvenience, you need not worship the human incarnation. You break the coconut before the statue and eat it yourself. But there is a fellow who wants to really offer the coconut to the king. He is pleased only when the king eats that coconut. He feels happy by seeing the happiness in the face of the king, while eating that coconut. What right you have to object such person? What right you have to object the king to come directly to eat that coconut for the happiness of a real devotee?
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2008 01:21 pm
@dattaswami cv,
dattaswami;60608 wrote:
God comes in human form based on the prayers of some top most devotees to give direct experience

Suppose some parents requested the management of a school to provide a park for waiting. The management is capable of doing so and it is the earnest desire of some parents. Suppose, there are some parents who do not like the facility of the park. They should not object those parents who want to use the facility of the park. They should also not oppose the management in the construction of the park. It is the duty of the management to inform the availability of the park so that any parent who ever desires to use that facility can use it apart from those parents who requested for it. If this general information is not provided to all the parents, some may ask the management regarding their negligence in informing the parents. Similarly, God comes in human form based on the prayers of some top most devotees to give direct experience. Through the human body the experience is not only direct but also complete.

Such experience is not possible in the formless worship or in the worship of the statues. Such worship of formless God and statues is only a representative worship. It is just like worshipping the statue of the king and not the direct worship of the king. When you break a coconut near the statue, you can offer it by waving the hand and then eat it yourself. But when we break the coconut before the actual king, the king is fond of the pieces of coconut and will eat the entire coconut. When you want to avoid such inconvenience, you need not worship the human incarnation. You break the coconut before the statue and eat it yourself. But there is a fellow who wants to really offer the coconut to the king. He is pleased only when the king eats that coconut. He feels happy by seeing the happiness in the face of the king, while eating that coconut. What right you have to object such person? What right you have to object the king to come directly to eat that coconut for the happiness of a real devotee?


OK.

Regards
DL
marcus cv
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2008 12:52 pm
@Greatest I am cv,
Quote:
Bibles are not meant to be taken seriously.


If you don't take the Bible seriously than what stops you to tell that you are a god? or any other idea that you may come up with?

Quote:
The God of ants is an ant.
The God of lions is a lion.


You are joking, right? My two year old would disagree with this statement.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2008 10:36 pm
@marcus cv,
marcus;61749 wrote:
If you don't take the Bible seriously than what stops you to tell that you are a god? or any other idea that you may come up with?



You are joking, right? My two year old would disagree with this statement.


What would your child say.

Regards
DL
marcus cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2008 04:28 am
@Greatest I am cv,
He doesn't see the difference between bees, dogs, cats, they are all animals to him.
He knows that there is only one Creator. And He likes to say that "God is good", very funny Smile

And I would add that God presented the order for the earth and placed man to rule over.`
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2008 08:07 am
@marcus cv,
marcus;61776 wrote:
He doesn't see the difference between bees, dogs, cats, they are all animals to him.
He knows that there is only one Creator. And He likes to say that "God is good", very funny Smile

And I would add that God presented the order for the earth and placed man to rule over.`


He is aying the right words by rote. Parots can do the same. I do not want to use your children in this conversation because I can be ruthless. So I leave.

Regards
DL
marcus cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2008 09:26 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Thanks Smile
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