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Greatest I am;63866 wrote:Jesus/God sacrifices to Jesus/God. This is not a sacrifice, it is penance for sin.
8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
(New Testament | Hebrews5:8)
Yes, even though Jesus was perfect, he was s.........
If Jesus/God sacrifices to or for himself as God t...........ement for his sins?
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To get a proper answer to it, one must first understand what is meant by Human incarnation. Lack of knowledge about human incarnation creates all these confusions.
This entire world is an imagination of God , it is only His dream. God is unimaginble to human beings. God comes to this world which is His imagniation, by entering the most deserving soul existing at that time called as 'Son of God'. God is hidden in such Son of God as current is in a live wire. God do all the good actions and miracles through the Son of God and Son of God gets the credit of acts of Father hidden in Him.
The sins of real devotees are due to their previous deeds. Results of sins has to be undergone. Thus SOn of GOd suffers the sins of His real devotees.
Even in the bible Jesus prays to God in the cross. This creates confusion if Jesus is God how come He is praying. FOr people on the earth human incarnation is the only path to God, since to God is unapproachable by us. Thus who ever seeing the Son of God has seen the original father.
Every human incarnation is a two-in -one system. When you say ?God in flesh?, the word flesh means a living human being and not mere inert human body. Krishna said in Gita that He enters the human body (Manusheem Tanum?.). Here the word human body means the living human being and not mere inert human body. The word human body means the composite of three human bodies and such composite is called as a living human being. Therefore this means that the Lord enters the human being. The three human bodies in the composite are;
(1) The outermost inner gross body which is alive due to the awareness that pervades all over the gross body.
(2) The inner subtle body (mind)which is the bundle of qualities or feelings which are alive because these qualities are just the vibrations of pure awareness.
(3) The innermost causal body(soul) which is the core pure awareness.
The gross body is crucified. All the statements are given by the subtle body only through the mouth of the gross body. This subtle body stated that His body was not prepared for crucification. Here the body refers to the gross body which is different from the subtle body. At the end this subtle body stated that it is submitting its soul to God. The word soul refers to the causal body. This composite of three bodies stands as the meaning of the word Jesus. This composite is the meaning of the word ?flesh?. This composite is called as the human being or jiva. Strictly speaking the word jiva means subtle body only. The soul is called as Atman. God entered Jesus and therefore God is in flesh. God is the fourth item and is called as ?Supersoul?. It is this supersoul or God who said ?I and My father are one and the same, ?I am the truth? etc. Therefore you should not confuse between the separate statements of subtle body and super soul.
Any ordinary human beings is just a composite of these three bodies without the super soul.
Otherwise there will be glaring contradiction between such statements. The aspect of human being is to stand as a practical example for all the human beings. The aspect of God is to explain practically the divine nature of God. Any human incarnation consists of these two aspects, which is a mixture of human being (Nara) and God (Narayana). If you take any sweet, it is prepared by mixing sugar and flour. But the item is called as sweet referring to the property of sugar only which is more important. Similarly any human incarnation is divine referring to the nature of God only, which is more important. An electric wire consists of electricity and non-electric wire. But it is called as current referring to the more important electricity only. You call the lamp as light which consists of flame and other materials like iron, sand, glass and cotton- piece with oil. It is called as light referring to the more important flame, neglecting other non-luminous materials. Therefore you call Jesus as God which really means the God is in Jesus. Similarly Hanuman is the incarnation of Lord Siva.
As a human being he acted as a servant of Lord Rama. As Lord Siva, He jumped over the sea and killed several demons. Similarly Lord Rama learnt the spiritual knowledge from sage Vasista. This is the aspect of His human body. But as Lord Narayana a stone was converted into lady by the touch of His divine foot. Similarly Krishna is a driver of the chariot of Arjuna from the point of human being. As Lord Narayana He preached Gita to Arjuna and gave divine vision to him. The aspect of God is to teach about the God to the human beings. The aspect of the human being is to freely mix with the human beings and stand as an example for human beings.
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