Eve, if God were loving, would have been the mother of Jesus.

Well, god did put adam and eve in the garden knowing full-well that they were going to eat the fruit, and then punishes them for doing what he knew what they were going to do and was fully capable of preventing....why put the effing tree there in the first place?

Because without it we would not have moral sense.

Most do not recognize that Eve did us all a great service by eating of it.

God was pleased.

If you read the fall with an angry tone then you see God chastizing Adam and Eve. If you read it with a more Jesus like aptitude and tone you see God merely coveying information and sending us out to learn what He has given us.

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DL

so he punishes them for doing what he wanted them to do?

Is it a punishment to give moral sense to us and then allow us to use it?

Would you be happy with no moral sense?

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DL

Is it a punishment to give women birth pains?

Birth pain is natural in animals. What else needs to be said. We are animals.

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DL

You didn't answer the question. Is giving women birth pains a punishment. yes or no?

God did not give birth pain. It is natural for animals. Same as death.

Do you really think God micro manages every little pain known to man?

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DL

First, no one was around to hear what God told anyone.
Secondly, why punish Eve for doing God's work of giving man moral sense.
Thirdly, my wife walks beside me, not behind me.

All souls have equal value. Why would God place one above another here when the demographic shape of heaven only has two layers. God is 1, All the rest are 2.

Do you believe in the talking snake?

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DL

may i reply....

DUH!

i'm merely pointing out the inconsistencies in the bible.

I & Father Are Same, Son Of God, Messenger Of God

To a deserving devotee, Jesus told He and His father are one and the same. When Jesus saw a devotee who was slightly affected by jealousy and egoism, Jesus came down by one step saying that He was the son of the God. The word son is indicating that He is different from the God but the same spirit is present in both like the same blood in the father and the son. This means that He is different and smaller than the God but at the same time has the same essence. It is like the relationship between the mighty ocean and the tiny water drop. The father is major and the son is minor component. They resemble qualitatively but differ quantitatively. This is the visishta advaita of Ramanuja.

When Jesus met a devotee who is fully bacterialised by jealousy and egoism He told that He was the humble messenger of God. This is the Dvaita of Madhva. Therefore the human incarnation will declare its level based on the level of the receiver. Mohammad told that He is the messenger of the Lord. Thus there is a gradual degradation of spiritual obedience and the gradual growth of jealousy and egoism. Jesus stands as a transition bridge between the Advaita of Krishna and Dvaita of Mohammad.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

Universal Spirituality
Universal Spirituality for World Peace

OK.

I too am a Son of God.

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DL