Evil is good. As all of Gods gifts are.

@Greatest I am cv,

Duality is the nature of this world. Light and dark, good and evil, etc.

Your human mind has a hard time grasping some things like universal oneness. If you have been raised in the west, this is a tough stretch because you were told that God and Jesus and other divine beings were above you somehow.

In Hinduism, you're taught that you are God, but in a greatly reduced form. Not a stretch at all. Oneness is something to aspire to.

To understand God, is to understand that good and evil do not exist except as concepts in the human mind. The mind will eventually prove this for itself, but most people don't have the time for that kind of deep introspection. The world draws their attention away from that needful task.

It is reflected in the shallowness of our society today.

You cannot have good or evil without comparing one to the other. Neither has a value otherwise.

x

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;64504 wrote:

Evil is good. As all of Gods gifts are.

God looked at Eden and said it was good. Eden included Satan to represent evil, the talking snake to represent society and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. All good.

It is said that all of God’s works are perfect. Evil and sin then, as His works and creation, must be perfect.

Genesis tells us that to know God better and understand His philosophy, we must eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. In fact we must eat of the evil side. Evil it seems is a better teacher than the good. Perhaps because of guilt and shame. This is what Eve chose and this is where we gain our moral sense.

Sin and evil were born in heaven before the earth was even formed. God cast 1/3 of angels (most think evil but actually good), to earth to help teach us this valuable lesson. Why else would He give us these angels if they were not benevolent? He would certainly not wish us evil, would He?

If God’s will cannot be thwarted then Eve did not fall at all but leapt to a glorious future of knowing why she and we are to follow God. A glorious leap to a history that we would not have if she had not had the intelligence or curiosity to begin our great journey.

If you were Eve, what would you do?

Eat of it and learn morals and wisdom or
not eat of it and remain in ignorance of why you should follow God.

Regards
DL

Evil did not come into existence UNTIL AFTER MANKIND chose to SIN...in fact God's Word clearly informs us that evil did not exist...when God looked at His creation and declared that "it is good" not only good but VERY GOOD. It was man that chose with the gift of free will, which indeed is a good thing, not to follow God's advise and in doing so man brought Sin and Evil into this world. Evil/Sin exists because PEOPLE love it and choose it (Jer. 5:30-31).

Mankind could have chosen to use KNOWLEDGE to do good works...but in fact the very first action chosen by man after doing what he was informed not to do was, an action engaging sin...a lie. Evil does not exist because of knowledge, but evil exists because man chooses to engage that knowledge in an evil fashion as God clearly informs us, "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." (Genesis 6:5). But not all men "chose" to engage their freewill and knowledge in an evil fashion as Noah found favor in God's eye. (Genesis 6:8-9).

Clearly EVIL came into this world as a product of MAN BEING "LIKE GOD".....being made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26). When man used freewill to be "AS ONE OF US"/part of the Godhead...in knowledge. (Genesis 3:22)....man had the inherent power to generate evil or good....to choose, and he did.....thus God had no choice but to cast man from the garden where the TREE OF LIFE existed which had the power to make physical man...immortal. (Genesis 3:23).

Clearly mankind has the power to choose and create evil, and being made in the image of God...is a spiritual Image...as God is a Spirit (John 4:24). Man is not a Spirit and is limited by his physical body...and does not have access to all the knowledge of the universe and is not OMNISCIENT in his choices and this ignorance creates EVIL when the wrong choices are engaged and placed into action....as indeed the path to Hell is paved with good intentions. Thus what was GOOD in the beginning became less than perfect because God was GOOD in giving man the power to choose.....as love cannot be mandated it must be chosen, for indeed how was God to know if any man was capable of loving Him if he was not given the freedom....NOT TO LOVE HIM?

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@xexon,

xexon;64505 wrote:

Duality is the nature of this world. Light and dark, good and evil, etc.

Your human mind has a hard time grasping some things like universal oneness. If you have been raised in the west, this is a tough stretch because you were told that God and Jesus and other divine beings were above you somehow.

In Hinduism, you're taught that you are God, but in a greatly reduced form. Not a stretch at all. Oneness is something to aspire to.

To understand God, is to understand that good and evil do not exist except as concepts in the human mind. The mind will eventually prove this for itself, but most people don't have the time for that kind of deep introspection. The world draws their attention away from that needful task.

It is reflected in the shallowness of our society today.

You cannot have good or evil without comparing one to the other. Neither has a value otherwise.

x

I agree that good and evil are two ends of a graph on which we hang our issues. Where we hang them tells us much.

Fundamental Christians seem to put genocide at the good end for some reason. Probably because the fools see it as just punishment from God. LOL.

Regards
DL

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@RED DEVIL cv,

Red Devil.

The angels had split in heaven before we were around for one thing and for another, scripture indicates that God created all things including evil.

If it was not around before man, where did the information for the tree of good and evil come from?

Also, who do you think the talking snake was?

Regards
DL

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@Greatest I am cv,

Greatest I am;64515 wrote:

Red Devil.

The angels had split in heaven before we were around for one thing and for another, scripture indicates that God created all things including evil.

If it was not around before man, where did the information for the tree of good and evil come from?

Also, who do you think the talking snake was?

Regards
DL

Simply because EVIL is defined does not indicate that it is to be accepted...in fact you have answered the question by asking it. Just how was man to avoid EVIL if he never knew that it could exist? (The very reason for the LAW was to identify evil and advise man to avoid that which is evil) The scriptures do not inform us that man was not EVER going to be allowed access to the tree of knowledge...He was just forbidden to eat thereof...as clearly he (man) was not ready to comprehend such in his physical state of existence. History points this fact out, KNOWLEDGE CAN BE USED FOR GOOD OR EVIL The angels also have the gift of freewill ( 2 Peter 2:4) .....therefore, it was a fallen creation of God (Satan) that used his freewill to become evil....God did not create evil, freewill choices did as much to institute Evil in the spiritual realm as in the physical realm. The scriptures inform us that Angels are Spiritual Beings and were created as a slightly higher order than was man (Ps. 8:4-5)

Again....attempting to use God as an excuse for the existence of evil conflicts directly with the Holy Scriptures. The Tree of Knowledge simply identified Good and Evil...it did not create such, FREE WILL actions always create EVIL. As evil is a sin....and Sin is the breaking of the Law ( 1 John 3:4). The Law simply identified Sin...it is still man, using his free will (which is good) to choose to do evil or engage in sin. This is why no animal can be considered evil....it only acts out of instinct and there is no Evil in nature. Only man has the capacity to be evil...has he has the capacity to reason and plan evil actions...FULLY KNOWING by having been exposed to the KNOWLEDGE that what he is undertaking is indeed EVIL.

Adam and Eve were created completely innocent...not having the knowledge of good and evil, and therefore not subject to any law that might govern it. Then came the EVIL ONE and tempted man to become as God...to know good and evil (Genesis 3:22).....Satan lied and convinced man that along with that knowledge also would come the power of God, but the only thing that knowledge brought upon the world was SIN/Evil (As man can never become omniscient as is God, for he(man) is limited by his flesh and can never have the wisdom to always choose GOOD over Evil as does God)....for up until that time, there was no knowledge of Sin.

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