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Jesus struck by lightning

 
 
Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 08:09 am
Lightning Strikes, Damages Jesus Statue At Mother Cabrini Shrine - News Story - KMGH Denver

obviously we know this to be a "lottery ticket" kind of natural occurrence. But rewind a couple thousand years and it might very well had been seen as the wrath of God.

In Exodus God topples the statues of Egyptian gods, recent discoveries now suggest that if God was in fact behind the toppling, he used an Earthquake to do it.

My question isn't about what we think this does or doesn't mean (cause I think it's prolly just lightning). My question is what would the response of the Ancient Greeks been had this happened in Greece during the conversion? Wrath of Zeus?

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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 08:12 am
@Silverchild79,
That is exactly what would have been. The gods are upset LOL
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 08:16 am
@Silverchild79,
I agree, LOL
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 02:01 pm
@Silverchild79,
Damn, where would we be then?
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 02:06 pm
@Silverchild79,
I'd still be in Oregon
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 04:37 pm
@Silverchild79,
Texas.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 06:24 pm
@Silverchild79,
Not literally (which I hardly have to point out to you).

And maybe not? What if whatever group that that happened to didn't convert to Christianity and with a lack of Christian identity and unity, Muslims or pagans overran the Christians in Spain or Constantinople more easily and America was never found?
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 07:53 pm
@Silverchild79,
America would have been found sooner or later, you just don't permanently misplace such a large land mass. Columbus was one of a half dozen people to find the Americas, there are Icelandic relics recovered on Newfoundland annually.

Eventually the Greek/Roman Pantheons would have been put down. With the advancement of science more and more of the Greek religion would have been put aside (IE nobody with today's education would believe the sun was Apollo's fiery arrow, and storms at sea are understood today to be climate driven not the wrath of Poseidon). Similar arguments emerge today concerning the age of the earth, the 10 plagues of Egypt, the great flood and many other topics. Sciences ever reaching grasp is beginning to comprehend things which only 100 years ago were still being called miracles.
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 09:10 am
@Silverchild79,
and in another hundred years more miracles will be explained.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 02:02 pm
@Silverchild79,
It wouldn't be that simple. Those cultures could have gone in some different direction and figured out the best philosophical theory to live by or the best military techniques instead of large scientific developement.

And in many cases of explaining miracles, miracles are more likely than the explanation.
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 02:10 pm
@Silverchild79,
many cases maybe... Most cases not a chance
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 02:25 pm
@Silverchild79,
Well, in many cases science has offered alternate explanations that are still hard to believe, but in most cases the miracles are not explained, if you want to say that.
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 02:30 pm
@Silverchild79,
but in most cases the miracles are not explained

And in another 100 years more of them will be.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 02:32 pm
@Silverchild79,
You might not be able to say that. In the next hundred years there could be a nuclear Armaggedon, and even though that seems a bit likely from where we're at, it doesn't mean it will happen.
Silverchild79
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 02:42 pm
@Silverchild79,
it could, mankind periodically hits the wall and loses some progress, but we always recover and continue on to further heights
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 02:46 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;17076 wrote:
You might not be able to say that. In the next hundred years there could be a nuclear Armaggedon, and even though that seems a bit likely from where we're at, it doesn't mean it will happen.



And I am sure Jesus will soon be walking amongst us too. Another hundred years on this planet is far more likely than a messiahs return.

After 2000 years you all are at least a loyal bunch.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 02:50 pm
@Silverchild79,
Perhaps because we get more of these scientifically explainable miracles than most other religions? Christianity and religion in general was around long before your sort of secular, relativist, modern outlook, and it will be around long after.
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 02:53 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;17083 wrote:
Perhaps because we get more of these scientifically explainable miracles than most other religions? Christianity and religion in general was around long before your sort of secular, relativist, modern outlook, and it will be around long after.

They had to have an explanation for what secular science was not around to explain yet. Hence your bible.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 03:01 pm
@Silverchild79,
? The bible is a collection of stories relating to religious figures who purposefully performed the miracles, not of miraculous happenings and why they happened (usually).
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 03:07 pm
@Silverchild79,
IThe bible explains the miracles. God made the Sea creature swallow (Jonah or JOb i get them two confused) when really the sea beast was dying and took an intake of water, since it died the stomach acifd fell dromant and either 3 day decay OR backwash regurgitation spit jonah (or Job) back out.

Their are more MIRACLES that the bible gives the reason for (to god) that science has not shown as something else.
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