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Is it healthy to forgive?

 
 
mousy
 
Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 10:51 pm
To reach a point beyond revenge perculating in the heart?
To close the doors to vengance haunts of the mind?
Where does all the pinned up anger go upon chosing forgiveness?
Is it possible? Is it really possible to forgive?

From my experience I'll take nothing short of justice..Turn the other cheek?:FU1:
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mousy
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2007 04:12 pm
@mousy,
Can Satan be forgiven by you if not God?


Forgiveness in theroy is beautiful but not realistic or practical..
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z0z0
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 08:57 pm
@mousy,
Mousy - all I can say is WHAT?

Forgiveness is a choice. The choice to turn the other cheek.
You can choose to stop the cycle of negativity.

Forgiveness is the realization that we are all flawed and that we make mistakes.
Remember Jesus saying "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

Forgiveness is not possible if you choose to dwell on the negativity and you draw power from it. Choosing not to forgive is a sign of personal weakness.

Choosing not to forgive comes from the power of being a victim.

If we truly forgave one another more often this would be a better world.

When not to forgive? When the other person habitually takes advantage or harms you.
That is blatant abuse and I wonder if that should be forgiven.
... but Jesus would probably say to forgive them
.... it is God's job to banish them to Hell.
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chuckc cv
 
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Reply Mon 30 Apr, 2007 09:30 pm
@mousy,
Forgiveness. I say we ask the Amish.
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sectionOne
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2007 11:31 am
@mousy,
forgiveness is for the self.
we aren't forgiving another, we are releasing the anger we hold.
and yes, it's quite healthy.
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NOOTRAC22
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2007 11:49 am
@mousy,
it takes up a lot of time and energy to hate someone, I don't see why anyone would spend that much time and energy on somthing that they don't like. so instead of hate I choose to just not care.
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sectionOne
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2007 12:33 pm
@mousy,
exactly, energy is better spent elsewhere.
forgiving is surrender, which is ok.

when you forgive someone are they excused from consequence?
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NOOTRAC22
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2007 01:22 pm
@mousy,
forgiving can be recognising a person for what they are and moving on with life. If a person is an ass you'd be the bigger ass if you expected them to act like anything other than an ass. so by "forgiving" you just make a mental note about that person and what they"re like, chalk it up to a learning experience and move on. can't get mad at a dog for humpping your leg or sniffing butts that's what they do. Maybe that's not forgiveness rather acceptence of the way life is.
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mousy
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2007 09:00 pm
@mousy,
when you forgive someone are they excused from consequence


still hoping for some penalty:D
sectionOne
 
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Reply Wed 2 May, 2007 11:33 am
@mousy,
mousy;14556 wrote:
when you forgive someone are they excused from consequence


still hoping for some penalty:D


but sometimes it never comes. many times the offender doesn't even recognize their mistake. so to carry that burden is even more of a penalty but only to you. that's why I forgive as soon as I can, it helps me get past my anger too. and beer helps.
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markx15
 
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Reply Thu 3 May, 2007 02:53 pm
@mousy,
Forgiving isn't healthy, because its most extreme form will lead most likely to death, it just remains as what you are willing to do in the name of religion.
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Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 01:01 pm
@mousy,
mousy;13851 wrote:
To reach a point beyond revenge perculating in the heart?
To close the doors to vengeance haunts of the mind?
Where does all the pinned up anger go upon choosing forgiveness?
Is it possible? Is it really possible to forgive?

From my experience I'll take nothing short of justice..Turn the other cheek?:FU1:



It is difficult sometimes to hate the sin and love the sinner.
A recognition that we are all to a greater or lesser degree can help to bring about the love. That and time.
Perhaps this is why God tells us to let Him Judge. Have confidence that the justice you seek will come through Him.

Regards
DL
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socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 04:42 pm
@mousy,
I never completely forgive and I never forget.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 05:25 pm
@mousy,
mousy;13851 wrote:
To reach a point beyond revenge perculating in the heart?
To close the doors to vengance haunts of the mind?
Where does all the pinned up anger go upon chosing forgiveness?
Is it possible? Is it really possible to forgive?

From my experience I'll take nothing short of justice..Turn the other cheek?:FU1:



Forgiveness is a requirement, yes.......but so is justice. Without justice, there can be no peace, which is also a requirement. :headbang:
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2007 02:47 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;19550 wrote:
Forgiveness is a requirement, yes.......but so is justice. Without justice, there can be no peace, which is also a requirement. :headbang:


There will be wars and rumors of war etc...

We will not likely see individual justice or collective justice in our lives so any that seek justice in order to forgive should study the above quote.

A balanced psyche has irritations and pet peeves, this is normal. Hate should be avoided or dealt with. That hate need to be worked or challenged till it is gone.

Regards
DL
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Skye cv
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 08:32 am
@mousy,
Learn from anger

Never miss an opportunity to learn even more about ourselves when we find we have anger or hurt caused by another.

Whether we forgive or not is less important than understanding the reasons for our reaction - anger, pain, and the various degrees of negativity.

Often we can use this to find out where we are coming from and then release ourselves in knowing why we allow that person to get to our core.

Forgive? Forget? Perhaps in all honesty we can do some of the work but it will always be with us for future reference.

There is nothing like experiential learning to know oneself. If we do reach a point of honest and pure forgiveness - we have done much for ourselves in overcoming.
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missdixy
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2007 09:15 am
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;19542 wrote:
I never completely forgive and I never forget.


I'm sort of the same way. I try to forgive but I can never do so fully. Usually, (keyword: usually, not always) as time passes, the memory isn't as strong and it becomes easier to forgive.
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