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Who is the God of the United States?

 
 
mousy
 
Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 10:37 pm
When the United States claims to be a nation under god...what god do they speak of ?
Clarification is most needed in a world that serves many deities

The "god" served usually produces a certain kind of people-Hallmark
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 11:46 pm
@mousy,
I call him Lord.
mousy
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 10:14 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;10171 wrote:
I call him Lord.




Anything like CEASAR? Describe it or...at least The way you imagine " Lord" -
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 11:23 am
@mousy,
Nope, nothing like Ceasar. I'll decribe mine if you dcribe yours?
mousy
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 04:55 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;10181 wrote:
Nope, nothing like Ceasar. I'll decribe mine if you dcribe yours?


I had an encounter with something once..could not see it but could feel it. Beyond the seemly limitless power it possed was the purity of its ora..intoxication energies of perfect peace and endless wisdom [filling my body]..at times I resent this experience.. because "it" is perfect peace..while that outside(dimension)it...CHAOS

Nevertheless I want this being to be my God...I take my chances on invoking this Ghost
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 05:09 pm
@mousy,
I've never felt anything remotely like that, not while straight anyway, where were you when you felt that?
I just feel reasured and loved, don't know how else to really esplain it.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 4 Feb, 2007 03:13 pm
@mousy,
Mousey, There is no lower case "god" in the motto. Lower case implies a man created god, not God Almighty. Man created gods are not God.

"The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War."
U.S. Treasury - Fact Sheet on the History of"In God We Trust"

Thanksgiving Proclamation
[New York, 3 October 1789]
By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.
Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor--and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.
Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be-- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks--for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation--for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war--for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed--for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted--for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.
And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions-- to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually--to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed--to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord--To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us--and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.
Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.
George Washington
Quoted from: George Washington Papers: Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation
mousy
 
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Reply Sun 4 Feb, 2007 04:31 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;10205 wrote:
I've never felt anything remotely like that, not while straight anyway, where were you when you felt that?
I just feel reasured and loved, don't know how else to really esplain it.



Holy, Holy, Holy,? Prove it? Infinite? Prove it?
I could never just except anything

One day..
Something replied I did not expect it(house)
I'm not crazy about spirits possesing ...but that ghost was timeless energy..
The cosmos"its" knowledge
mousy
 
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Reply Sun 4 Feb, 2007 04:38 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;10245 wrote:

Lower case implies a man created god


Seriously...Did man not...being that science has not proven GOD ALMIGHTY?



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Man created gods are not God.



Watch it!!!! THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR is a jealous God
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 4 Feb, 2007 04:53 pm
@mousy,
You say, "Prove it." Prove that God doesn't exist.

Ps 14:1, ?The fool says in his heart, ?God does not exist.? They are corrupt; their actions are revolting. There is no one who does good.?

You'll know eventually.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 4 Feb, 2007 04:55 pm
@mousy,
And again,

Jr 17:5, ?This is what the LORD says: Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind, who makes human flesh his strength and turns his heart from the LORD.?

27 Is 44:6, ?This is what the LORD, the King of Israel and its Redeemer, the LORD of Hosts, says: I am the first and the last. There is no other God but Me.?
Tulip cv
 
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Reply Sun 4 Feb, 2007 06:03 pm
@mousy,
Mousy, Here in the snowy and very cold Canada, we have the same God, and he is the God of the Bible, not to be confused with Budda, or Allah.

Buddah followers would not mind me saying this because Buddism is a way, and a teachings, and so a Christians can follow the way of Buddism, or at least acknowledge the beautiful symplicity of it, while having a relationship with Jesus.

And what religion are you Mousy? don't answer, it is a joke, as if l don't know!!!
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 5 Feb, 2007 07:24 am
@mousy,
mousy;10249 wrote:
Holy, Holy, Holy,? Prove it? Infinite? Prove it?
I could never just except anything

One day..
Something replied I did not expect it(house)
I'm not crazy about spirits possesing ...but that ghost was timeless energy..
The cosmos"its" knowledge
You accept the existence of ghosts. You believe in spirits but not in God? I think you do not have one without the other. You think you have prove of a spirit, in ensense this to me is proof of God.
mousy
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2007 12:05 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;10264 wrote:
You accept the existence of ghosts. You believe in spirits but not in God? I think you do not have one without the other. You think you have prove of a spirit, in ensense this to me is proof of God.


Actually found something... not a blind faith
No excuse... The pantheon does not register on human tools...
How did imagination surpass the zeal of discovery
mousy
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2007 12:11 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;10252 wrote:
And again,

Jr 17:5, “This is what the LORD says: Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind, who makes human flesh his strength and turns his heart from the LORD.”



27 Is 44:6, “This is what the LORD, the King of Israel and its Redeemer, the LORD of Hosts, says: I am the first and the last. There is no other God but Me.”



Very Happy King of the KLAN as well............


The "god" served usually produces a certain kind of people-Hallmark
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Professor Chaos
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2007 12:16 pm
@mousy,
Corporate greed.
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mousy
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2007 12:30 pm
@Tulip cv,
Tulip;10255 wrote:
Mousy, Here in the snowy and very cold Canada, we have the same God, and he is the God of the Bible, not to be confused with Budda, or Allah.

Buddah followers would not mind me saying this because Buddism is a way, and a teachings, and so a Christians can follow the way of Buddism, or at least acknowledge the beautiful symplicity of it, while having a relationship with Jesus.


Christians can follow the way of Christ? Persecution, rejection, crucifixion -In his name..nothing like a blood sacrifice as proof to the Lamb..
muslims have no problem proving it to ALLAH
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2007 08:20 pm
@mousy,
mousey l realize this is a second language for you but it is hard to figure out what you are saying, can you expand your sentences...

In regard to Christ, he died for our sins, so we are all his children. In fact as a muslim, you were told by Mu {pkhih}to honour the Holy Scriptures which is the bible, so l suggest you start.

---
and {pkhih} means please keep him in hell.
a little prayer to God, not to be confused with allah, the moon god.
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Wed 7 Feb, 2007 08:46 pm
@mousy,
You got that right Mousey, why Islamists show the entire world how they bow to allah, heck here we go-

2006
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2006: Qassam rockets fired by Hamas into Israel, especially the cities of Ashkelon and Sderot, injures many citizens.
Suicide attacks in Iraq in 2006.
February 22: Al Askari Mosque bombing ignites sectarian strife in Iraq.
March 2: Bombing in Karachi, Pakistan kills four, including a U.S. diplomat.[50]
March 3: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-born graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus, injuring nine.
March 7: Bombings in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi, India kill 28 and injures more than 100.
March 30: Palestinian suicide bomber kills himself and four others at Kedumim Junction in the West Bank.[51][52]
April 11: A suicide bomber explodes himself in Karachi, Pakistan, and kills 57 Sunni worshippers.[53]
April 17: Sami Hammad, a Palestinian suicide bomber, detonates an explosive device in Tel Aviv, Israel, killing eleven people and injuring 70.
April 24: Bombings at three locations in Dahab, Egypt kill 20 Egyptians and three foreigners, and injure 62 others.
May 11: Six policemen die and twelve are injured when five bombs go off in a police academy in Quetta, Pakistan.[54]
June 15: The LTTE detonate two claymore mines targeting a bus carrying 140 civilians in Sri Lanka. 68 civilians, including ten children, three pregnant women and their unborns, are killed. Approximately 60 civilians are injured.

The 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings June 25: Eliyahu Asheri, an Israeli citizen, was kidnapped and murdered by the Palestinian terrorist group, the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC).
July 9: 40 Sunni civilians are massacred by Shia militants in Baghdad, Iraq.
July 11: A series of explosions rock commuter trains in Mumbai, India, killing 209 and wounding another 714 civilians.
July 14: Suicide bomber in Karachi, Pakistan kills a Shiite Islamic cleric Allama Hasan Turabi and his nephew.
July 17: Explosions and gunmen kill 48 people in a market in Mahmoudiya, Iraq.[55]
July 18: Car bombing near a Shiite shrine in Kufa, Iraq kills 53 and injures 103.[56]
July 31: Two suitcase bombs are discovered in trains near the German towns of Dortmund and Koblenz, undetonated due to an assembly error. Video footage from Cologne train station, where the bombs were put on the trains, led to the arrest of two Lebanese students in Germany, Youssef al-Hajdib and Jihad Hamad, and subsequently of three suspected co-conspirators in Lebanon.[57] On 1 September 2006, J?rg Ziercke, head of the Bundeskriminalamt (Federal Police), reports that the suspects saw the Muhammad cartoons as an "assault by the West on Islam" and the "initial spark" for the attack, originally planned to coincide with the 2006 Football World Cup in Germany.[58][59]
August 4: A suicide car bomber struck a market in Kandahar, Afghanistan killing 21 people.
August 10: A major anti-terrorist operation disrupts an alleged bomb plot targeting multiple airplanes bound for the United States flying through Heathrow Airport, near London, UK.
August 13: Two grenades explode on a trolleybus in Tiraspol, Moldova, killing two people and injuring ten.[60]
August 16: A bomb exploded in a Hindu temple near Imphal, India, killing five and injuring nearly 50 other.[61]
August 20: Gunmen spray bullets on Shiites in Baghdad, killing 20 people and wounding more than 300.[62]
August 30: An Afghani Muslim hit 19 pedestrians, killing one, with his SUV in the San Francisco Bay area.
September 8: At least two bomb blasts target a Muslim cemetery in the western town of Malegaon. The blasts kill 37 people and leave 125 others wounded.
September 12: Four attackers armed with grenades and machine guns attempt to storm the U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria. Three of the gunmen and one Syrian guard are killed during a battle between the attackers and Syrian security forces. One Syrian employee of the embassy and at least ten bystanders are wounded, among them, seven Syrian telephone company workers and a senior Chinese diplomat. Police recover a car laden with explosives and other IEDs. Syrian Ambassador to the United States Imad Moustapha announces that his government suspects a group called Jund al-Sham is responsible.[63] See Damascus terrorist attacks.
September 15: Four suicide bombers and a security guard are killed in early-morning attacks on the Safer refinery in Marib and the al-Dhabba terminal in Hadramout, Yemen. Although no group has claimed responsibility Islamic extremists are suspected. See the September 15 Yemen attacks page.
September 16: 2006 Hat Yai bombings: four people killed, 82 injured, by six bombs along the main commercial street of Hat Yai. The devices were placed approximately 500 meters apart, and were remotely set off every five minutes.[64]
September 18: Eleven people, including the presidents brother and six attackers, are killed in an assassination attempt on the Somalian president.[65] See 2006 Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed assassination attempt.
September 30: A suicide bomber detonates his explosives outside the interior ministry in Kabul. The attack kills twelve and wounds over 40.[66]
September 18: An LTTE suicide bomber rams a truck packed with explosives into convoy carrying unarmed Sri Lankan Navy personal going on leave, killing at least 92 sailors.[67]
November 1: The Real IRA detonates a series of firebombs in a large hardware retailers, a sports store and toy shop all in Belfast, the hardware retailers and sports store were completely destroyed. No fatalities.[68]
November 20: A suspected terrorist bomb explodes on a train in India. See 2006 West Bengal train disaster.
November 21: Assassination of Pierre Amine Gemayel, an anti-Syrian politician and scion of Lebanon?s most prominent Christian family blamed on Syria, Iran and Hezbollah despite their denials.[69]
November 23: A series of car bombs and motar attacks in Sadr City, Iraq kills at least 215 people and wounds a further 257. See Sadr City bombings for details.
November 24: Michael Stone, prevented from murdering members of the Sinn Fein political party.[70][71]
December 30: A bomb explodes at the Madrid airport, killing two Ecuadorians and injuring 26 people. The ETA a Basque terrorist group has claimed responsibility.
December 31: Eight bomb explosions in seven areas of Bangkok, Thailand's capital city, three people died, nearly 40 injured.


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As of January 9 since December 2006 forty seven attacks in the Gaza Strip by pipe bomb and rocket lauched granades by the Swords of Islamic Righteousness on individuals and businesses it considers immoral.[72]
January 10: Three bombs kill six and injure twenty seven in the southern part of the Philippines. Muslim militants trying to disrupt Asian Summit suspected.[73]
January 12: Explosion causes minimal damage at the US Embassy in central Athens; police suspect rocket. Spinoff of Greek left wing group November 17 suspected.[74]
January 22: A bombing in a market in Baghdad, Iraq, kills 88 people and wounds 160 others. See 22 January 2007 Baghdad bombings for further detail.
January 26: A suicide bomber kills himself and a security guard trying to enter the Marriott hotel in Islamabad. Witnesses say the bomber tried to enter the hotel through a back door that is used by staff. He was stopped by the security guard and detonated his explosives after a scuffle.[75]
January 27: A suicide bombing Pakistan's north-west city of Peshawar kills at least 14 people, mostly policemen, and injures at least 30. Security forces had been on high alert ahead of the annual Shia festival of Ashoura, commemorating the 7th Century martyrdom of the Prophet Muhammad's grandson.[76]
January 29: A terrorist attack was launched against Israel in the resort city of Eilat, killing 3 people via suicide bombing by 20-year-old Mohammed Siksik of Gaza City. Islamic Jihad and Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed joint responsibility for the attack. Hamas, the Islamic terror group, that controls the Palestinian Parliament, has praised the attack.[77]
February 1: Two suicide bombers attacked an outdoor market, in the shiite city of Hila, south of Baghdad. According to police 45 people were killed and 150 wounded.[78]
February 3: A truck bombing in a crowed Baghdad market kills at least 130 people and injures a further 305 others.[79] See 2007 Baghdad market bombing for further detail.


source- List of terrorist incidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Thu 8 Feb, 2007 05:30 am
@mousy,
I beleive God is essentially the same for all monotheistic "religions" . Some , however , pervert the teachings of God for their own reasons , then use those interpretations to differentiate themselves from others and to further strife and dissention among nations and people .
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