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Vatican Debates Transplantation?

 
 
Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 12:32 am
Vatican Debates Transplantation? by Judie Brown

It has come as a surprise to some that the Pontifical Academy for Life is co-hosting a November 2008 conference with the theme "A Gift for Life." I have known that the conference has been on the drawing board for some months now. This past June, when concerns were first expressed to me, I, as an Academy member, joined with Professor Joseph Seifert to ask the Academy's leadership to reconsider the topic of the conference and perhaps postpone it until Academy members could discuss concerns privately in a closed-door meeting.


Professor Seifert has written and spoken of his concerns about the validity of the "brain death" criterion for many years. In a 1998 Catholic World Report article, we read the following:

It is often said that in the brain-dead patient, certain organs remain alive, although the brain ? and thus the patient himself ? is dead. On the contrary, argues Seifert:


We have to consider that the human life is not like a tree life. Each twig and each little part of the tree has some life; it's a living cell, and the life of the whole organism is in a certain way like the integrated totality of life processes in the different parts of the tree. But when it comes to persons, you have the source of the real personal life, the human soul, which is indivisible ? it cannot be divided into many parts. Therefore the new question is whether functions of the brain are the only thing that keep body and soul together, that bind the soul to the body, or that are the source of the incarnated presence of the soul. That, I think, is extremely doubtful. . . . The mystery of how body and soul are united exceeds just brain function. It's not just an isolated presence in a single organ.

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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 02:13 am
@Drnaline,
Not that i'm a big fan of either, but i think the protestants are correct in their removal of a greater church authority. The Vatican gets to decide what is right and what is wrong, and then impose that view on all Catholics who are required to agree, this is contrary to individual intellectualism. It is the right of the individual to decide for themselves what is the correct interpretations and what they think is right.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 04:07 am
@Drnaline,
A friend of mine, one of his favorite sayings is:The largest religion is Catholics, the second largest. Nonpracticing Catholics. The one's who disagree with the Vatican i would believe fit in the catagory.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 04:54 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;59814 wrote:
A friend of mine, one of his favorite sayings is:The largest religion is Catholics, the second largest. Nonpracticing Catholics. The one's who disagree with the Vatican i would believe fit in the catagory.


What meaning has this? Other than a display of arrogance?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 11:37 am
@Drnaline,
In reference to your "removal of greater authority." The Vatican can try and "impose that view on all Catholics" But as humans with freewill, that often doesn't happen. No arrogance, just my opinion on your post.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2008 03:10 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;59826 wrote:
In reference to your "removal of greater authority." The Vatican can try and "impose that view on all Catholics" But as humans with freewill, that often doesn't happen. No arrogance, just my opinion on your post.


That's like trying to justify making a "bad law" by the fact that people won't follow it. The fact of the matter is they shouldn't of tried to in the first place.

The arrogance i was talking about was your friend's insistence that Catholicism is present in all people that some reject it and some accept it, but that insistence wouldn't be consistent with reality.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2008 08:15 am
@Drnaline,
He was joking, but i guess he got you.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2008 06:42 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;59843 wrote:
He was joking, but i guess he got you.


dry Jokes that are repeated tend to be believed.
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