school prayer

In my school we had what was called a "moment of silent reflection." Now I dont know if that was just a Fairfax County thing or nation wide; but it never upset me. But there were many people up in arms over it, so how do you all feel about this?

the truth is, as long as there are tests in school there will be school prayer.

I had to look back at my post.... I thought so, lol. I didn't say prayer, I said GOD. But getting back to prayer... my son's school still has the one minute of "quiet reflection" they call it now, rather than prayer. I'll fight if they try to stop it.

Why? Because we have allowed every other religion, every culture, every atheist to take our rights, as christians, from us.

WE are supposed to respect every other religion that finds its way to this country, but where's the respect for MY religion??

Do I think we should have a principal or teacher-led prayer time? no.
Do I believe that every single student should have the RIGHT to take a minute... ONE FRIGGIN MINUTE we're talking here... to pray to the God of their choice, or not pray if they so choose?

an emphatic YES YES YES! You don't want to pray? FINE, stand there and be quiet while MY child exercises his God-given and constitutional right to talk to his God.

In fact.. I'm going to go one step further here...
Most highschools sponsor, or at least allow, clubs, on school property, for extra curricular activities. In my daughters' school, there was a large group of kids, christians, who wanted to start a Bible club. Man you wouldn't believe the opposition! People who had never participated at the school for ANYTHING... all of a sudden found a voice to oppose an after school bible club. Well we fought for it, as parents and tax-paying citizens, and won.
hell the muslims can have their clubs on school grounds, as well as just about every other religion, and they try to block a bible club because it's Christian???? I don't think so........

When exactly did we take prayer out of school? Are you saying that forced prayer in school causes less crime or changes the way that kids act?

I can tell you I would have acted the same in high school were i forced to hear a teacher or even student led prayer everyday in school.

It would have pissed me off and I would believe no different.

Why should we have a school wide led prayer everyday?

I can tell you I would have acted the same in high school were i forced to hear a teacher or even student led prayer everyday in school.

It would have pissed me off and I would believe no different.

Why should we have a school wide led prayer everyday?

I had to look back at my post.... I thought so, lol. I didn't say prayer, I said GOD. But getting back to prayer... my son's school still has the one minute of "quiet reflection" they call it now, rather than prayer. I'll fight if they try to stop it.
Why? Because we have allowed every other religion, every culture, every atheist to take our rights, as christians, from us. WE are supposed to respect every other religion that finds its way to this country, but where's the respect for MY religion??
Do I think we should have a principal or teacher-led prayer time? no.
Do I believe that every single student should have the RIGHT to take a minute... ONE FRIGGIN MINUTE we're talking here... to pray to the God of their choice, or not pray if they so choose? an emphatic YES YES YES! You don't want to pray? FINE, stand there and be quiet while MY child exercises his God-given and constitutional right to talk to his God.

In fact.. I'm going to go one step further here...
Most highschools sponsor, or at least allow, clubs, on school property, for extra curricular activities. In my daughters' school, there was a large group of kids, christians, who wanted to start a Bible club. Man you wouldn't believe the opposition! People who had never participated at the school for ANYTHING... all of a sudden found a voice to oppose an after school bible club. Well we fought for it, as parents and tax-paying citizens, and won.
hell the muslims can have their clubs on school grounds, as well as just about every other religion, and they try to block a bible club because it's Christian???? I don't think so........

Well by taking God out I could only assume prayer... I am not talking about the moment of silence. I do not have a problem with that. I have a problem with a prayer everyday led by a teacher that only promotes one religion.



What rights?



I don't see christians losing any respect myself over other religions. Can you give examples? All I see is other religions fighting for more equality. For instance with the ten commandments that Judge Roy Moore refused to move from the Alabama courts. They should have never been there in the first place.



See that is what I believe in. I never said they shouldn't be able to do that.



While I agree it is not as if they can only pray in that 1 minute of silence all day


I agree that is wrong.

I have a problem with a prayer everyday led by a teacher that only promotes one religion.

What rights?

I don't see christians losing any respect myself over other religions. Can you give examples?

All I see is other religions fighting for more equality.

For instance with the ten commandments that Judge Roy Moore refused to move from the Alabama courts. They should have never been there in the first place.

While I agree it is not as if they can only pray in that 1 minute of silence all day

Forced prayer, who exactly is being forced? Taking prayer out can never happen, Freedom of religion and all. Forced doen't change anything but resentment. But if you do it of your own free will then is does have a bearing in the way you act in society.

Here is a good example of what i mean. How will you act now. This is your site, you have the ability to censor me. I would like to resite the first few sentences of 'Our Father"
Our father, who art in heaven. Hallow be thy name. Thy Kindom come, thy will be done. On earth as it is in heaven.
You may or may not do anything. If you do not today, it could be tomorrow. It may be never. In any case you have a choice. As you make a choice now you made one then. If you did not respond to your given right back in the day it is no ones fault but your own. Allowences are made for those who speak up. Not the ones that remain silent.

But would you of believed in it enough to leave?

Maybe because around 85% of this country believes in it?

Can you explain why they should of not been there? Was the judge not allowed to express his freedom? What about the majority who thought nothing wrong with it? The offence is from the voice who should be heard but heeded is to the people to decide.

It is not up to the govenment or a school board or any person but yourself when and where you will pray. But if the majority of a class deems it Ok you may voice your opposition but as with most republics, majority rule is usually the outcome.

I never said anyone was being forced right now. I said that putting prayer back into school in the form of a daily lead prayer by faculty or even students over the intercom for instance is wrong and forcing others to hear a prayer of a religion they do not believe in.



This site is not funded by the government. Schools are. Schools should not have daily prayer led by faculty or students period. I already said a moment of silence is fine.



Leave where? Hard to leave somewhere when you are in High School :rolleyes:

Why should I leave a public school where I am zoned to go to by the government? School wide led prayer should not be allowed to begin with.



That is a horrible reason :rolleyes:

These are not private schools and having someone lead a prayer everyday at a government funded school is extremely stupid and disrespectful to that other 15% of people that go to that school.

I never said anyone was being forced right now. I said that putting prayer back into school in the form of a daily lead prayer by faculty or even students over the intercom for instance is wrong and forcing others to hear a prayer of a religion they do not believe in.

This site is not funded by the government. Schools are. Schools should not have daily prayer led by faculty or students period. I already said a moment of silence is fine.

Leave where? Hard to leave somewhere when you are in High School

Why should I leave a public school where I am zoned to go to by the government? School wide led prayer should not be allowed to begin with.

That is a horrible reason

It was paid for by the Government of Alabama. Nuff said.



Again no one is denying ANYONE the right to pray at school.

This whole arguement is about teacher/student lead prayer everyday to all the students at the school. That is stupid.