@richrf,
richrf;71196 wrote:
I always have a problem with "the way to do things", as if the opposite way is somehow incorrect. For me there is no "way to do things", so I support all endeavors.
Would you support endeavors to execute newborn babies? Probably not, right?
The Eightfold Path has three aspects: wisdom, ethical conduct and concentration. Wisdom is concerned with right view and right intention; that is understanding reality as it truly is and the aim of eliminating harmful and immoral personal qualities so that our goals are morally upright.
The Ethics is concerned with right speech, right action and right livelihood.
The Pali Canon says, "And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, and from idle chatter: This is called right speech."
"And what is right action? Abstaining from taking life, from stealing, and from illicit sex [or sexual misconduct]. This is called right action."
Right livelihood is when the practitioner has given up dishonest living and abstains from making a living in ways that harm others, specifically by doing business in weapons, human beings, meat industry, intoxicants and toxic products designed to cause harm.
I doubt you really think that the opposite of abstaining from selling human beings is appropriate; I doubt you would condone slavery. Buddhism does not demand that everyone act the same, instead Buddhism takes note of ways of doing things that are harmful and suggests that you not do things that are harmful.
richrf;71196 wrote:Also, when one provides some method to achieve something, there is an intrinsic call to desire - which I personally think always exists in a human existence. So, if one is meditating just to meditate, then there is no desire. But I think it gets boring very fast, so some desire to achieve something seems to seep in.
And, according to Buddhism, desire is not necessarily a bad thing.
Ta?h? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tanha is a technical term in Buddhism with a very precise and well defined meaning. It is not simply "desire" or "craving" in English.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TanhaAs I listen the Thurman's lectures on video, he seems to be drenched in objectives. But this is just my perspective.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean, "drenched in objectives"? He most certainly has a goal in mind when he teaches about Buddhism. Thurman is a professor at Columbia who teaches eastern thought; he was the first westerner to be ordained as a Tibetan Buddhist monk. Thurman is a teacher.