And I agree wholeheartedly. Especially with a spicy tomato sauce for dipping!
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dlowan
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Sat 13 Feb, 2010 11:56 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:
In the sperm whale language, the word for squid is Lunch.
Sometimes, in colossal squid language, the word for sperm whale is dinner.
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dadpad
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Sun 14 Feb, 2010 12:33 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:
Ooops ! I realise now they are talking about the Decapus (not to be confused with the Octopus).
The largest ever seen was by a night duty officer in WWII on board a Liberty Ship. After looking over the side and noticing a huge eye looking back at him, he walked along the ship and estimated it to be the length of the ship 135 m (or 441 ft 6 in, in American metric). Such size has also been confirmed from the days of the whaling stations when it was common to find sperm whales with sucker marks on them made by a comparably large Decapus.
It seems they object to whales eating their young. Those who dine on them, you have lost the moral high ground if you ever go swimming.
my bullshit meter is off the scale here
there are no decapus in the southern ocean as they are a favorite food of aquatic drop bears.
Ever notice how big things get when its a lone sailor?
The largest giant squid ever measured was discovered at Timble Tickle on November 2, 1878. Three fisherman were working not far off shore when they noticed a mass floating on the ocean they took to be wreckage. They investigated and found a giant squid had run aground. Using their anchor as a grappling hook they snagged the still living body and made it fast to a tree. When the tide went out the creature was left high and dry. When the animal died, the fishermen measured it and then chopped it up for dog meat. The body of the squid was twenty feet from tail to beak. The longer tentacles measured thirty five feet and were tipped with four inch suckers.
Japanese scientists led by Tsunemi Kubodera and Kyoichi Mori succeeded during a expedition to the Pacific Ocean some 600 south of Tokyo. The squid they photographed was approximately forty-six feet long.
Fishermen in New Zealand may have captured the largest Colossal squid ever recorded. The squid was reported to be 10 meters (33 feet) in length and took more than two hours to land.
They are believed to grow up to 14 meters (45 feet) in length
Standard Length (SL) is the length of a squid excluding the tentacles; in Architeuthis this measure very rarely exceeds 5m.
The rest of the animal's length, to a total length of 13m, is made up of the two long tentacles. Of more than 130 specimens that we have examined, none has exceeded these figures
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Ionus
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Sun 14 Feb, 2010 01:36 am
@dadpad,
In Albany in West Australia the whaling station found a giant tooth in a single bite mark that suggested a prehistoric shark. The experts were reluctant to write it up because of ridicule from lacking a specimen.
In the case of sabre tooth cats, they have evolved and become extict from big cats up to 8 times, at least. It depends on the size of the game. What makes you certain that isnt happening with squids, a far simpler creature ?
More people have walked on the moon than have been to the bottom of the ocean. Are you aware of "extinct"creatures that have been found in the oceans ? Are you also aware of the platypus ? The first person to return with the body of one was accused of sewing it together so cleverly, you couldnt find any evidence. The giraffe was "discovered" many hundreds of years after the Romans knew of its existence.
Personally, I believe the watch officer. If ones of this size were becoming extinct then we would see little of them. It would explain certain tales in the past of giant squid attacking ships. Most whaling stations around the world reported giant sucker marks on whales but given the need for hard evidence, no one fully documented all the cases but if they had that would have been evidence by itself. Given the damage being done to the oceans I wouldnt be surprised if we had lost our chance to see squids this big.